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The People vs. George Lucas New STAR WARS-related film - official launch!

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 03:27 AM

Greetings!

I'm very proud to announce the birth of a new Star Wars-related documentary - The People vs. George Lucas - which I hope youíll want to participate in, as it concerns every Star Wars fan out there.

Hereís the link to our website:

www.peoplevsgeorge.com

The People vs. George Lucas is not only the first truly democratic feature film in history; itís also a unique opportunity for the millions of opinionated Star Wars supporters and detractors everywhere to speak up about the franchise and its creator, George Lucas.

Slated for release in 2009, The People vs. George Lucas is a new kind of Star Wars fan film, and weíd like to encourage you to participate in the making of this exciting new documentary. This film is about empowering the fans. Itís about telling George what we love and hate about Star Wars. Itís about expressing what this franchise means to us, what we wish had been handled differently, and what our hopes for the future are. Above all, itís a celebration of what binds us, the fans, together.

So check out our site, spread the word, and send us your footage!

Cheers,
Alexandre O. Philippe
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The People vs. George Lucas
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www.peoplevsgeorge.com
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 08:42 AM

QUOTE (PvsG @ Dec 16 2007, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
www.peoplevsgeorge.com

Nice idea, but website is Flash only.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 10:52 AM

Yeah, I can't check out the site right now as I am on my iPhone but I certainly will as soon as I get home from my trip!
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 12:53 PM

An interesting idea, but I'm a little wary about letting fans try to run the show... You tend to end up with a whole lot of masturbatory rubbish. And slash fiction. pinch.gif

But then again, given that it's fans versus George Lucas, they could still probably do a better job. tongue.gif I'll stay on the fence for now. Oh, you should also stick around the forums and post a bit, because it's just bad form to create an account just to plug your website, though you get kudos for actually seeming like a real person and not a bot. smile.gif
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Post icon  Posted 16 December 2007 - 02:15 PM

QUOTE (Slade @ Dec 16 2007, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
An interesting idea, but I'm a little wary about letting fans try to run the show... You tend to end up with a whole lot of masturbatory rubbish. And slash fiction. pinch.gif

But then again, given that it's fans versus George Lucas, they could still probably do a better job. tongue.gif I'll stay on the fence for now. Oh, you should also stick around the forums and post a bit, because it's just bad form to create an account just to plug your website, though you get kudos for actually seeming like a real person and not a bot. smile.gif



Thanks, Slade! I appreciate and understand your concerns, and I can assure you that our job while making this doc will be to act as mediators. There are, as you know, many contentious issues that SW fans feel passionate about and that we believe deserve to be debated in an open, fun-spirited way. In fact, our objective is to interview a number of celebrities as well, and we plan to give each side of the argument an equal amount of screen time. In short, this isn't about demonizing George. I love him as much as any fan. But there's been a lot of talk about the Special Editions, the new trilogy, the Midichlorians, etc... And these issues will be at the heart of our debate.

Finally, because our doc will be largely about, for and by the fans, this post isn't so much about plugging our film as it's about encouraging people like you to get involved. PvsG is a truly unique documentary in that sense, because we want to give every fan a voice. I hope this helps clarify a few things, and thanks again for your message!
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 04:17 PM

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 10:33 PM

There's a video of me giving the prequels a hard time on Australian TV if you want.

QUOTE (Chefelf @ Dec 16 2007, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I can't check out the site right now as I am on my iPhone but I certainly will as soon as I get home from my trip!


A free ipod-nano to anyone who can guess the sponser who brought you this message tongue.gif


EDIT: Just read the guidlines.... Well if I get time, I'll give you you whatever I can for the prosecution. Needless to say, I have alot to say on the matter.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 10:45 PM

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In short, this isn't about demonizing George. I love him as much as any fan.


Does not compute.

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I hope this helps clarify a few things, and thanks again for your message!

Yep. It clarifies to me that you are a bot.

I hope I get a form response. I've never been thanked for my message before!
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Posted 17 December 2007 - 12:23 AM

QUOTE (TheOrator @ Dec 16 2007, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does not compute.


Yep. It clarifies to me that you are a bot.

I hope I get a form response. I've never been thanked for my message before!



All right, all right: Thank you! There.

Oh, and bring on the prosecution! The more heated the debate, the better the flick!
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Posted 23 December 2007 - 05:15 PM

So how will this project differ from the book SW on Trial?

The book was interesting. Some good writers taking sides, but some essays were good; many pretty bad. They tried to have an interactive website associated with it to debate the ideas but it was also vandalized a lot. In this sense, the book was mastabatory.
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Posted 23 December 2007 - 06:31 PM

This does look interesting and I will be keen to see how it turns out. This is clearly a home for many people less than satisfied with the end product, but I still have to question what the expected outcome is.

What is it that you want specifically to achieve? We've seen that George is reticent in changing his views once established - having said that the sheer weight of demand did see the DVD release of the OT in it's original form. Personally I think this was still more a marketing tool than anything else, but hey. in this case the fans got what they wanted.

Are we looking for an apology, the remaking of the films, the making of more films????

Oh, yeah and quick question for Nick. Have you published the final versio of Shimmering Sword? I have the edition pre Revenge of the Sith so am curious if you have managed to add to this yet.

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 07:42 PM

I think the "give the people a voice" angle sounds nice, but it will be a disaster in practice- something like TheForce.net forums I imagine.
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Posted 23 December 2007 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (jariten @ Dec 23 2007, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the "give the people a voice" angle sounds nice, but it will be a disaster in practice- something like TheForce.net forums I imagine.



Thanks for posting, and I certainly understand your concern. In fact, that's something we put a lot of thought into prior to launching our site. It would probably be a disaster if we didn't have a dramatic structure in mind and included a bunch of random clips in the film. But we're going to have to be extremely selective, and there are a number of points we want to articulate, so every submission will be carefully filtered. While we want the process to be as democratic as possible (and the various points of view out there to be heard, as long as they're articulate), at the end of the day, we still have to make a film. In that sense, the final product will still be subjective. There's quite simply no way around that. But our intent is to treat the fans and their opinions with respect, and to give George a chance to explain himself. In other words: we're not interested in creating a Jerry Springer-type show for Star Wars fans. There are real and important issues that need to be explored, and we want to create a safe environment for fans to respectfully vent their opinions and ideas. In fact, we just started a blog at myspace.com/peoplevsgeorge, so you can participate there as well and give us your ideas. And the more people actively participate in the making of this film, the more likely we are to grab George's attention, so I urge you all to get involved and spread the word!
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Posted 23 December 2007 - 08:27 PM

I kind of like the idea. And from what I know of other independent filmmakers (who are often professional filmmakers who haven't yet had a chance to do a larger film), there's a lot of good work being done out there.

Let's face it, SW has had a huge cultural impact on common culture as well as the entertainment industry. But, as Bill Gates put it, the geeks have taken over the world. SW geeks are exactly the same as sports geeks, literature geeks, academics, etc. Listen to any Sunday news program and the talking heads come across as politics geeks. Listen to the play-by-play of a football game. They talk about their passions as fondly (and obsessively) as SW people.

Has anyone seen the Star Trek movie about fans (was it called Trekkies?)? It kind of comes off as if the people were a bit deraged because they seemed to live Star Trek. I don't think this movie would be as interesting. However, I do think the premise is very interesting if it comes off like the scene in the Kevin Smith's movie about the Death Star and whether the construction workers deserved to be killed when the DS II was destroyed. It would be amusing, entertaining, and informative.
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Posted 24 December 2007 - 04:22 AM

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You're absolutely right of course- your film is a film and as such needs a structure and plot and needs something to tie A to B to C.

You must realise then, that labelling your film a democratic enterprise is completely misleading. What you will end up doing is what any filmmaker would end up doing, find a structure then filter out the fans' voices to fit it.

Anyway, good luck with it. I had about as much SW discussion as I could manage in my 'prequel days' on this board so I don't feel up to commentating much myself, but I don't envy you having to wade through the inevitable "Jar Jar sux111" "Mace Windu was way cool!!" "Darth Maul would kick Vaders ass!" comments you're bound to get.

Oh, if you want an actual democratically made film, check out the 'I Shot That!' concert film the Beastie Boys put out, where they gave 50 people (I think it was 50) cameras and asked them to shoot the gig, then edited together the results. Of course, they didn't have to worry about a story or whatnot like you will, but still.

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