Bush calls heterosexual marriage 'ideal' Sunday, February 28, 2004
#17
Posted 03 March 2004 - 12:13 AM
By that argument, your dog is being discriminated against when the state doesn't allow him to apply for a driver's license. And your dog should also be allowed to apply for a firearm, if he can show no criminal record, etc.
These are HUMAN rights we're talking about.
Back to Nate's point: the conservatives can't come up with an argument that doesn't lean heavily on "tradition", and that doesn't ultimately involve Jesus (or some dumb analogy). In fact, I don't know one atheist who is in favour of a ban on gay marriages.
#18
Posted 03 March 2004 - 01:02 AM
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This post has been edited by Jon Gutner: 03 March 2004 - 01:03 AM
#20
Posted 03 March 2004 - 08:25 AM
HUMAN rights as defined by what, the constitution? So doesn't it make sense resolving the issue would involve the constitution? The only problem with Bush raising the issue is with people who disagree.
Naturally Athiests don't give a damn regarding a reward in the afterlife for "wholesome" values. That's their lot.
{I hope I haven't offended anyone's lack of faith}
#21
Posted 03 March 2004 - 06:20 PM
but I think religion is good for keeping people in line, an afterlife of metakarmic proportions instills people with a reason to do good.
which, as desp "doglover" ondent mentioned, makes athiests dangerous people. BUT this also makes catholics more dangerous because they can commit any atrocity and their maximum punishment will be in this life in the form of a confession and 3 'hail marys' and 2 'our fathers'
sorry, if I offended anyone but - wait who am I kidding, I'm not!! I have pleanty of catholic friends and they all agree with me!!! IN FACT they use it as a threat!!!
This post has been edited by barend: 03 March 2004 - 06:22 PM
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#22
Posted 03 March 2004 - 06:44 PM
Cut off their access to a confessional and watch 'em cry barend. Their threat is only as good as their ability to run to a priest and say I'm sorry after the act.
Yoda
#23
Posted 03 March 2004 - 08:13 PM
but I think religion is good for keeping people in line, an afterlife of metakarmic proportions instills people with a reason to do good.
which, as desp "doglover" ondent mentioned, makes athiests dangerous people. BUT this also makes catholics more dangerous because they can commit any atrocity and their maximum punishment will be in this life in the form of a confession and 3 'hail marys' and 2 'our fathers'
sorry, if I offended anyone but - wait who am I kidding, I'm not!! I have pleanty of catholic friends and they all agree with me!!! IN FACT they use it as a threat!!!
not a bad idea karl marx, i mean barend...
#25
Posted 03 March 2004 - 08:53 PM
Sure, I guess. And since Bush only wants to alter the part of the Constitution that refers to Marriage, aomeone ought to tell him that the constitution doesn't refer to Marriage in any way. And with good reason: the courts, and the individual States, have power over the law.
Bush wants to wrest the control from the States, and centralize it, over such a small issue as Marriage Rights. And essentially in the name of Jesus, no less. What might be next? Whoever said this is a Pandora's box is right.
Sorry if I offended you, God-fucker (there's that "love God" sexual inference you wanted). But if only the Jesus people want this ban on marriage, then it's a matter of Church and State.
I just don't get what the big deal is. Can't the Jesus crowd just do what they always did, bitterly divorce themselves from the issue and secretly wish hell and torment on everyone they don't like? This business of trying to change the law to meet the needs of the dumbest President in history is like Salem all over again (only scaled up to the national level). That he's trying this in an election year shows not only how desperately he wants people to forget his warmongering but also how terrifying and mean-spirited the conservatives in America really are.
#28
Posted 04 March 2004 - 09:44 AM
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#29
Posted 04 March 2004 - 07:05 PM
civ#2: maybe aomeone will.
de-spon-dent: $10 says you don't. (oh and $20 on that life on mars thing while we're at it...)
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