[Ninja Duck]

Beheading of South Korean Hostage Shown on Web Site
Wednesday, June 23, 2004

DUBAI (Reuters) - An Islamist Web site has posted a videotape of the beheading of the South Korean hostage killed by militants in Iraq.
Kim Sun-il, an Arabic-speaking translator, was executed on Tuesday by his captors after Seoul rejected demands for South Korea to stop contributing troops to U.S.-led forces in Iraq.

The tape shows heavily armed and masked men standing over a kneeling Kim, who was blindfolded and wearing an orange tunic.

One man read from a written statement while another in a black mask grabbed Kim, hurled him to the floor and severed his head with a sword.

The head was then placed on the body, which was later found by U.S. forces.

Text on the Web site read: "visual video of the execution of the Korean missionary in Iraq." Sections of news reports of Kim's execution were also posted on the site.

Kim was an evangelical Christian who had worked in Iraq for a year for a South Korean firm supplying the U.S. army.

The Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera aired some of the tape Tuesday, but did not broadcast the beheading.

© Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.

http://www.reuters.c...storyID=5498173

...Are any problems solved yet?

[Just your average movie goer]

That was unbelievable. And it really came as a terrible shock to all of Korea - shock at the cruelty of others and shock at the government's poor handling of the situation... and quite clearly, shock at the brutal murder of a good man.

I can't really bring myself to say anything else on the matter. It was horrible.

[barend]

The US forces have been doing things that led to this sort of behaviour, but judging by the methodes used, these people obviously enjoy what they're doing...

and killing a translater, in such a gratuatist manner is just barbaric!!!

everyone is just acting like fucking animals, and civilians on both sides are paying the price...

It really sickens me. Two sides of an argument going: "look what i can do to your people"

[Heccubus]

I suggest that people actually try to give the Nick Berg video a view. I don't reccommend it just for fun, but try anyway. Something about that video seems....odd. Almost as if it were patched together. And for having his head cut off, dude seems pretty calm. At any rate, there's just something about these events that seems fishy to me, and I'm beginning to think that there's something here beyond a bunch of crazed middle-eastern militants attacking and beheading civilians.
Despite this, however, all love and support go out to Sun-il's family in what is no doubt the most wretched time in their lives.

[barend]

a frind of mine brought this up...
-Nick Berg is wearing a US military issue prisoner uniform.
-he didn't struggle or wriggle

he was probably drugged, from what i've heard Sun-li definatley wasn't.
It is quite conceivable that the US government is behind it, and it would benifite their cause...

however it is not my official opinion...
as i am missing too many facts, but it is an intersting (and disturbing) thought.

[Heccubus]

As I said, I'm not sure either. There's just some evidence that points to the fact that maybe it is a little foul. Either way, all of these incidents are horrid tragedies, no matter who's behind them.

[J m HofMarN]

I definately wouldn't put it past the Bush Regime. I marched with Nicholas Berg's father at a rally in Washington to end the war. One of the points he made was that what the Iraqi people are doing is a response and a defense to American agression. It's dramatic to see a guy get his head chopped off but why dosnt the american media show the Iraqis who get their body parts severed daily by American shrapnel? We have no place whining here, when you compare casualties we've only lost a tenth of what the Iraqis have suffered.

The people who are appauled by these images should be saddened that men were brought to the point where they would do this to people to defend their homes. Once the resistance opens up an actual front I think the execution of civilian aids to the occupation is going to cease since then the rebels will be in a more military structure. It shouldn't take long before that happens.

[Just your average movie goer]

We have no place whining here, when you compare casualties we've only lost a tenth of what the Iraqis have suffered.

I'd just like to point out that the South Korean translator is in no way responsible for anything that transpired over in Iraq. No-one has the right to kill innocent civilians to aid their causes.

And furthermore, doing so damages their efforts. Many people around the globe are sympathetic to the Iraqi people and we can understand how some people could be driven to terrorism. But individuals who cross the line and kill innocent people, these are people who have forfeited our sympathies.

How could the terrorists who do such things expect that people will now leave them alone? Millions of people who saw or read this news will probably want those people killed or imprisoned for the rest of their lives.

These people, like the international invasion they so detest, are a threat to the security of Iraq.

However, J M, I agree about the fact that the media does not show the atrocities that American soldiers inflict upon Iraqis.

But leave innocent civilians out of the politics, on both sides. This is a war. Both sides must see to it that it is fought between the people who are trained and willing to do so - ie. soldiers (whether they be government or guerilla fighters) and NOT civilians.

[jyd]

a frind of mine brought this up...
-Nick Berg is wearing a US military issue prisoner uniform.
-he didn't struggle or wriggle

he was probably drugged, from what i've heard Sun-li definatley wasn't.
It is quite conceivable that the US government is behind it, and it would benifite their cause...

however it is not my official opinion...
as i am missing too many facts, but it is an intersting (and disturbing) thought.

you bring up a good point but i am going to have to disagree, if the cia or whatever did that, they wouldnt put him in a U.S prisoner outfit, these guys probably just had a buddy in a u.s. prison and put him in that to send another message. as for sun-li..that really sucks South Koreans keep getting shit from people

edit: i forgot to re-emphasize "however it is not my official opinion..." dont want to put words in your mouth

This post has been edited by jyd: 24 June 2004 - 09:20 AM

[barend]

i said that just in case the bush admin reads it and i 'disapear'

[jyd]

speaking of you disappearing, where did Bender go? gotta get bender back

[Heccubus]

Don't listen to him, Barend! I like the new av, and it's cool to see someone else taking the plunge and showing their face. And if you "disappear", I'll be sure to masquerade as you to keep your presence known. Why? I don't know. You just happen to rock, I suppose.

[Just your average movie goer]

Man, Barend's ego is big enough with out any of us fuelling it further.

[Heccubus]

I can't help it if I like the guy. I'd just hate to have him suddenly disappear from this neck of the woods. His posts usually entertain me.

PS: Maybe we should get back on topic.

Uh....damn militants!

[Ninja Duck]

And furthermore, doing so damages their efforts.  Many people around the globe are sympathetic to the Iraqi people and we can understand how some people could be driven to terrorism.  But individuals who cross the line and kill innocent people, these are people who have forfeited our sympathies.

How could the terrorists who do such things expect that people will now leave them alone?  Millions of people who saw or read this news will probably want those people killed or imprisoned for the rest of their lives.

These people, like the international invasion they so detest, are a threat to the security of Iraq.

That's exactly what I was thinking. What, where there the terrorist thinking the Koreans would say to themselves, "Wow, they're really serious about killing our civilians. Let's give them what they want at any cost."?

Because if they were, that's a lot of thinking. I mean, I was thinking what the terrorists were thinking what the South Koreans were thinking. And JYAMG was thinking what I was thinking. Maybe we can harness our brain energy into one big WMD, or something.