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Saddam asked Bush for $1bn to go into exile Thursday, September 27, 2007

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 04:55 PM

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Saddam asked Bush for $1bn to go into exile
By DAVID GARDNER - More by this author »
Last updated at 23:45pm on 26th September 2007


Saddam Hussein offered to step down and go into exile one month before the invasion of Iraq, it was claimed last night.

Fearing defeat, Saddam was prepared to go peacefully in return for £500million ($1billion).

The extraordinary offer was revealed yesterday in a transcript of talks in February 2003 between George Bush and the then Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar at the President's Texas ranch.

The White House refused to comment on the report last night.

But, if verified, it is certain to raise questions in Washington and London over whether the costly four-year war could have been averted.

Only yesterday, the Bush administration asked Congress for another £100billion to finance the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The total war bill for British taxpayers is expected to reach £7billion by next year.

More than 3,800 American service personnel have lost their lives in Iraq, along with 170 Britons and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.

However, according to the tapes, one month before he launched the invasion Mr Bush appeared convinced that Saddam was serious about going into exile.

"The Eqyptians are speaking to Saddam Hussein," said Mr Bush.

"It seems he's indicated he would be prepared to go into exile if he's allowed to take $1billion and all the information he wants about weapons of mass destruction."

Asked by the Spanish premier whether Saddam - who was executed in December last year - could really leave, the President replied: "Yes, that possibility exists. Or he might even be assassinated."

But he added that whatever happened: "We'll be in Baghdad by the end of March."

Mr Bush went on to refer optimistically to the rebuilding or Iraq.

The transcript - which was published yesterday in the Spanish newspaper El Pais - was said to have been recorded by a diplomat at the meeting in Crawford, Texas, on February 22, 2003.

Mr Bush was dismissive of the then French President Jacques Chirac, saying he "thinks he's Mr Arab".

Referring to his relationship with Downing Street, he said: "I don't mind being the bad cop if Blair is the good cop."

The President added: "Saddam won't change and he'll keep on playing games.

"The time has come to get rid of him. That's the way it is."

Days before the invasion began on March 22, 2003, the United Arab Emirates proposed to a summit of Arab leaders that Saddam and his henchmen should go into exile.

It was the first time the plan had been officially voiced but it was drowned out in the drumbeat of war.

A spokesman for Mr Aznar's foundation had no comment on its authenticity.

Bomb attacks killed 57 people in Iraq yesterday.

http://www.dailymail...ticle_id=484162


I really hate to get political but . . .

Why is everyone not reporting this story? Is it possible that chefelf.com will be the world's SECOND news site to pick this up? This is pretty big news!

Seriously, I looked around and it doesn't look like anyone else is reporting it!
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 05:13 PM

If that's the case, then it could be a big red flag on the article's validity. Or it could be that everyone's afraid that Clinton's mafia ties will pick them off like flies if they report the story? *shrug*
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 06:38 PM

If it makes you feel any better, Chef, I think it's important.

But it feels like more of the same thing.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 09:10 PM

I think you'll find that no one cares. stories like this don't make people buy things.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 10:25 PM

Bah! 1 billion dollars of my tax money is still too much to waste "liberating" Iraq. No, I'm more in favor of Saddam's infinitely more sensible offer to duel Bush or Cheney and settle the war in that matter.

Why is it that everything I hear about the lead up to this war makes Saddam sound like a decent, sensible guy and Bush looks like a war crazed mad man. Saddam offered two perfectly sensible alternatives to war and they were both utterly ignored.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 12:49 AM

Common sense and reason have no place within the walls of internal relations. How the hell will we explain the wars against Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia and Somalia to future generations?
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Posted 28 September 2007 - 06:21 AM

It is my fervent hope that historians will place the blame on idiocy and greed.

JM: Saddam wasn't decent or sensible; he did kill lots and lots of people he didn't like. However, this just makes it more and more blatent that Bush just felt like invading Iraq, and never had any real pretense. I've been saying that since the rumblings of being dragged into more stupid wars started in 2002.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 06:00 PM

Well, its from the Daily Mail, the most whiny, pessimistic, immigrant0hating paper on this island, and sadly the third most popular (well, by my reckoning). So it may well be a bit more reported tomorrow. We'll see.
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Posted 28 September 2007 - 06:16 PM

This whole war thing was fishy from the beginning
The amount of money wasted
and lives lost is just disgusting.

There are so many stories of how there
were alternative and such but Bush wanted his war
and thats what he got.

how we'll ever explain this to future generations?
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Posted 28 September 2007 - 06:29 PM

At least Bush's reasons are mostly stupidity and greed. Some people (including a couple of presidential candidates) support the war because they want to "eradicate the Muslim threat."
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Posted 28 September 2007 - 10:14 PM

Slade- precisely why I prefaced it with "everything i hear about the lead up to this invasion makes it sound like" Both of their records are pretty awful, but if you were just given this example and asked to judge them, hey, there's no contest.

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 02:37 AM

QUOTE (Slade @ Sep 28 2007, 03:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is my fervent hope that historians will place the blame on idiocy and greed.


I am sure future generations will look onto these days as we do on the days of World War One… tragic.

QUOTE (Spoon Poetic @ Sep 28 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At least Bush's reasons are mostly stupidity and greed. Some people (including a couple of presidential candidates) support the war because they want to "eradicate the Muslim threat."


At least our politicians don’t say it when want to eradicate entire groups of people. Well Pauline Hanson does but she doesn’t count because… err… never mind.
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 06:26 AM

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More than 3,800 American service personnel have lost their lives in Iraq, along with 170 Britons and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.

And two Australians. At least one of which I think was killed by an American.

Seriously speaking though, if Saddam was willing to go into exile to save his people for money, if he really cared about his people he'd do it for free as well. If that had happened, America would have had a much worse reputation for invading and Bush would have had a lot more difficulties in defending his war to the American public.
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 03:45 PM

I agree. Bad move, Saddam. Obviously, you didn't care a whole lot about your people as long as your government/country was relatively stable, but you could have at least put a bigger thorn in the sides of those assholes in Washington. I give you a... C+ for effort. See me after class.
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Posted 11 October 2007 - 03:58 PM

Q: Who would have taken power if Saddam did go into exile.

A: Just another asshole who has Americas backing.

I honestly think it was a good thing that Washington didn’t except Saddams offer, now we see the Empire for what it truly is… again.

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