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2008 Presidential Predictions poll & debate: who will be next prez?

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Posted 19 May 2007 - 10:39 AM

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The only constitutional stipulation is that you have to be over 35 years old and a natural-born citizen.

However, realistically, you have to be very wealthy and influential, as well as a large political figure to begin with, and you have to be of one of the two political parties that fight over who gets to screw everyone over, and then be nominated by said political party. And then you wage your propaganda war and possibly rig elections in areas where you have influence over that sort of thing.


having served in the military and earning a couple of college degrees also seems to be a prerequisite for candidacy as well.
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Posted 19 May 2007 - 10:54 PM

I wonder if 100 years from now people in the United States will consider the past 220+ years of United States history as the age of stagnation, the age in which for some bizarre reason Americans refused to reform their constitution in order to keep up to date with modern crimes and modern principles.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 01:00 PM

No, you can have no military experience and get gentleman's C's at Yale or be an actor to become president. I wish military experience was a requirement if we're going to let the president tell said military what to do. Though it didn't stop Teddy Rosevelt from being an obnoxious, platitude-generating prick. tongue.gif

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 12:26 AM

QUOTE (Slade @ May 18 2007, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only constitutional stipulation is that you have to be over 35 years old and a natural-born citizen.


and married.
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 06:40 AM

QUOTE (barend @ May 23 2007, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and married.


yeah, theres no such thing as a president having a first whore, or first lady of the night,..first friend with benefits..

...of course, then again..didnt Bill Clinton have that?
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 12:41 PM

I forget who, one of the presidents wasn't married. Zachary Taylor maybe? I'm sure it is on Wikipedia, but I'm too lazy to check.

Anyway, if Hilary got elected I'd leave the country the day after I graduate. I have no issues with a woman being president; I have issues with her being president. Bill Clinton wanted to be president, and by an impressive set of coincidence managed to get in there. Hilary wants to be president so she can do things, and that's never a good thing.

Frankly, I like the Obama platform. In addition to being the second black president (after Bill Clinton, of course), we can buy those bumper stickers for his campaign against Hilary: "Bros before hos."
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Posted 23 May 2007 - 02:27 PM

What are your issues with her being president, Cyzyk? Curious.
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Posted 25 May 2007 - 06:49 AM

QUOTE (Cyzyk @ May 23 2007, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I forget who, one of the presidents wasn't married. Zachary Taylor maybe? I'm sure it is on Wikipedia, but I'm too lazy to check.

Anyway, if Hilary got elected I'd leave the country the day after I graduate. I have no issues with a woman being president; I have issues with her being president. Bill Clinton wanted to be president, and by an impressive set of coincidence managed to get in there. Hilary wants to be president so she can do things, and that's never a good thing.

Frankly, I like the Obama platform. In addition to being the second black president (after Bill Clinton, of course), we can buy those bumper stickers for his campaign against Hilary: "Bros before hos."

i actually can see where you are coming from on this, and Im a girl.

There is something about Hilary, that makes me not like her that much either., like she is a stickler or something. For a national politician she sure doesnt smile a whole lot, I think she has a chip on her shoulder,.maybe even a stack of chips on both shoulders..who knows.

But there is something about her I just dont like, her body language? that she seems too stearn about things. I can see her running the country good..maybe a little bit too good, which can be bad, if you know what I mean.
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Posted 26 May 2007 - 02:42 AM

Bottom line for me is that the democrats are going to take it unless they go and elect a watered down middle of the road candidate who believes in nothing but is electable (2004 anyone?). Or if theres a terrorist attack. A terrorist attack is the wild card but depends on spin. If there's a democrat who actually believes in something and is willing to fight, then he'll win even despite another 9/11 because he'll point out that such has happened 2 times under a republican government. If not, the Republicans will be all "we have to have more power to protect you from this" and win.

So the basic thing is if the democrats are actually going to run as democrats they can win. But if they're going to be more worried about voter appeal and electability they'll take a well deserved ass raping.

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Posted 28 May 2007 - 01:28 AM

I don't support Hillary at all, and I'm a liberal. Actually, maybe I don't support Hillary because I'm a liberal. She represents a wing of the Democratic party that I strongly dislike; her and Bill and their DLC cronies have spent the last few years marginalizing the grassroots left and pushing the party farther towards the right. If we're going to fix the problems in this country, we need radical change, not milquetoast do-nothing centrism. I'm voting for Dennis Kucinich in the primary because he reflects my views, and to hell with his 'electablility'. I'm tired of voting for compromise candidates who cave at the first sign of conflict; maybe if people voted for the candidates they wanted rather than the candidates they thought were 'electable', we would actually get a real liberal candidate in America.
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Posted 29 May 2007 - 08:01 AM

QUOTE (Cyzyk @ May 23 2007, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Frankly, I like the Obama platform. In addition to being the second black president (after Bill Clinton, of course), we can buy those bumper stickers for his campaign against Hilary: "Bros before hos."


Its funny how Bill was the first black president when everybody who worked for the Clintons in the 90s know how racist the two [Clintons] were.

QUOTE (princesskadee @ May 25 2007, 07:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i actually can see where you are coming from on this, and Im a girl.

There is something about Hilary, that makes me not like her that much either., like she is a stickler or something. For a national politician she sure doesnt smile a whole lot, I think she has a chip on her shoulder,.maybe even a stack of chips on both shoulders..who knows.

But there is something about her I just dont like, her body language? that she seems too stearn about things. I can see her running the country good..maybe a little bit too good, which can be bad, if you know what I mean.


Personally, I don’t like the fact that she hates the military. When Bill was pres - no military were allowed to be in uniform while in the white house. And the fact that she’s a liberal wack job. Yeah that one always gets me too.

The fact that she is still with Bill after all the affairs and sex scandals just shows she’s only still with him for political reasons. I firmly believe she’s just a power hungry cunt. You watch and see, if they don’t get divorced if her presidential hopes get shot.
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Posted 29 May 2007 - 09:37 PM

oooh a girl used the 'c' word... i'm strangly turned on.


anyway...


no hillary!

1. because a member of her family was already president so it's a conflict of interest and mockery of the two term rule.

2. if she couldn't keep her husband in line, she can't be trusted with a whole country.

3. PMS and the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons do not go hand in hand well.
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Posted 30 May 2007 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (barend @ May 29 2007, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oooh a girl used the 'c' word... i'm strangly turned on.
anyway...
no hillary!

1. because a member of her family was already president so it's a conflict of interest and mockery of the two term rule.

2. if she couldn't keep her husband in line, she can't be trusted with a whole country.

3. PMS and the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons do not go hand in hand well.


what "c" word are you referring to?
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Posted 30 May 2007 - 01:46 PM

Hmmm...

You know seeing Prime's name coupled with the two thousand eight presidential thingy... I can't help but wish we had an Autobots party. They're big into human rights, can PWN the fuck out of Decepticons, terrorists, or whoever else bothers them (though, being Autobots they dont just go looking for trouble) and they seem to have endless sources of inexpensive fuel, plus pocket dimensions that could solve all of our waste disposal troubles. Plus fix this global warming deal, all we'd need to do is say Megatron did it and they'd figure out a way.

The question is, why is Mr. Prime not running?

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 03:38 PM

QUOTE (optimus_prime @ May 30 2007, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what "c" word are you referring to?


I think he was referring to the 'cunt' word.
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