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Dylan a False 'Prophet,' Says Pope Benedict 2007-03-09 07:50:49

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (TheOrator @ Mar 15 2007, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And the Bible isn't the Constitution--it can't be amended, it can't be changed. So what is the Pope doing? What religious, moral power does the Pope have?


I'm not sure in exactly what sense you don't think it isn't like the Constitution. It's not a Political document, sure, but it was written by various men at different times and collected by other men who VOTED on what should be included an what shouldn't. So it has been amended, and it contains all sorts of stuff that is ignored by its readers simply becasue they don't want to cut it out, but they don't use it. Wildly contradictory in places, too, but that's generally ignored as well. I dare say it could stand some ammending, if you're not ready to throw it out altogether (I'm ready to throw it out altogether).

Anyway, on to the Pope. The Catholic Church doesn't hold that all revelation ended with the last book in the Bible. The Church doesn't add new books, but it does believe that Revelation continues. This is why there is a belief in Saints, and in appearances by same as well as by Mary.

The Church has a council of Cardinals and Bishops, I think they call the Cardinals a "college," who discuss Church matters, as well as how the Catholic Church, as a Political force, ought to be using its influence on world events. The Pope is the head Cardinal. So while he can't amend or add to the Bible, his religious power is obvious.

You said something elsewhere about how in Catholicism you can "apologise for anything anyway." I suppose you were referring to Confession, which Catholics use to air out their mistakes and receive moral guidance through prayer. I suppose you're some other form of Christian, and so you think this is silly. Power to you. I don't believe it's any sillier than anything else in Christianity. A being who is ONE and is also his own son, as well as the love between the father and son which is manifested sometimes as a bird that can make people talk in different languages, but which is unique although the three are all actually only ONE thing, created the world and everything in it, either animals first and then man and woman, or animals and man, and then woman, or something. Then this being got mad and said everyone was a sinner, but they could be forgiven if it came to earth in the form of the son and let the poeple kill it so that it could come back to life and then tell them "you're forgiven just so long as you believe that all of this happened." And the primary source for this was some books that were lauded around the Roman Empire 2000 years ago.

It's all nonsense.

Just like Lennon said, and Benedict apparently agrees, "I don't believe in Zimmerman; I just believe in me."
"I had a lot of different ideas. At one point, Luke, Leia and Ben were all going to be little people, and we did screen tests to see if we could do that." -George Lucas, in STAR WARS: the Annotated Screenplays (p197).
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 12:16 PM

When did Lennon say that? I'm just curious.
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE (Slade @ Mar 19 2007, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When did Lennon say that? I'm just curious.

In 1970, on the album "Plastic Ono Band," in the song "God."

God is a Concept by which
we measure our pain
I'll say it again
God is a Concept by which
we measure our pain

I don't believe in magic
I don't believe in I-ching
I don't believe in Bible
I don't believe in Tarot
I don't believe in Hitler
I don't believe in Jesus
I don't believe in Kennedy
I don't believe in Buddha
I don't believe in Mantra
I don't believe in Gita
I don't believe in Yoga
I don't believe in Kings
I don't believe in Elvis
I don't believe in Zimmerman
I don't believe in Beatles
I just believe in me...and that reality

The dream is over
What can I say?
the Dream is Over
Yesterday
I was the Dreamweaver
But now I'm reborn
I was the Walrus
But now I'm John
and so dear friends
you'll just have to carry on
The Dream is over
"I had a lot of different ideas. At one point, Luke, Leia and Ben were all going to be little people, and we did screen tests to see if we could do that." -George Lucas, in STAR WARS: the Annotated Screenplays (p197).
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 10:39 PM

silly man, how could he not believe in the beatles?


he was in them.
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 11:31 PM

I'm glad to see it in print (so to speak).

The (current) Pope creeps me out. I mean, I respect the papacy, but *shudder*.
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 12:34 AM

He's got some good points, but they all appear to be made on accident. tongue.gif

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 11:39 PM

Pope Benedict turns 80 in a month! Everyone be sure to send him a candygram.
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (TheOrator @ Mar 15 2007, 10:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To be fair, all youth in Nazi Germany were required to be in Hitler Youth.

Oh yes, and he escaped, risking the firing squad...

What a bastard.
But choosing a crappy and unoriginal name like 'Benedict' shows he has no judgment anyway.

QUOTE (barend @ Mar 15 2007, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So he's a quitter and a deserter too? angry.gif


Am I missing something? He quit the HITLER YOUTH.
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:31 PM

yep, he quit an organised regimented institute to run away and become the leader of some cult in Italy.
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE (barend @ Mar 26 2007, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yep, he quit an organised regimented institute to run away and become the leader of some cult in Italy.


I have never heard the Roman Cathelic faith put so... truthfuly...

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 12:08 AM

in other news i finished KOTOR 2, and will commence char.prof.seq. soon


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Posted 26 March 2007 - 03:40 AM

Exuse me, it was a SELF-exile, I asked to be banned so to go on holiday for a while... but it is nice to hear you actualy finished kotor 2, how long did it take you?

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 06:20 PM

not long.

it's confounding that you requested to be banned just to go on holidays.... that was just silly.
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Posted 27 March 2007 - 02:51 AM

It is to much of a temptation for me to post here, this forum is like a drug... I just needed some rest from it.
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