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Posted 30 December 2006 - 08:09 AM

Really a lot of the similarities with DUNE got weeded out with the successive rewrites, but with original terms like Jedi Bendu and the idea of opening the book with a prophecy, STAR WARS has a DUNE-like feel to it. The big sandworm skeleton on the desert planet remains the most overt homage. BUt yeah, STAR WARS is based on a lot of stuff. Again, not that there's much wrong with that; it was sorta the point of STAR WARS that it was a throwback to pulp sci-fi. I would have the same shrug in store for anyone who complained about all the pop culture referencing in PULP FICTION. tongue.gif
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Posted 31 December 2006 - 02:44 AM

Well i FINALLY saw it in all
of it's law-breaking glory....
and i have to say i liked it.

I wil allso say that i would't
see it again if i was paying but i wil definitly
want to own it.

There really are alot of similarities
like a princess that the goes to save and
Eragon get some help from a dark

haired more world savy 'friend'.
The ending left somethings unfinished like they expect a sequel.
Unless that wwas the case original

then they have a very cocky director and company
then again anything Fox does
doesn't surprise me.

But yeah all in all, decent film and i would see
the sequel if nothing else to see some more got dang charater development.
I want to care but they make it kinda difficult.

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There's a lightside, a darkside

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 05:32 PM

I saw Eragon opening night and thought it was alright. I'll buy the DVD most likely. I just think it was a really rushed movie but that dragon was awesome. As for the Star Wars comparison, there is no pure orginality to stories anymore. Our world has so many authors that stories become heavily influenced by each other. Take for instance that JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings series has inspired many others to write fantasy. Their plot? Take some unlikely heroes, give them an artifact of some kind which puts them in a life or death situation, and send them on a quest. All fantasy follows this formula. I consider Star Wars more fantasy than Sci/fi so it follows this basic formula which then Eragon no doubt does as well. Point being that all fantasy has it basic roots in what JRR Tolkien did. It's not copyright infringement but rather "recycling".
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 03:37 AM

OH I see recycling....
You know, i hate to use a street-like analogy
but in the music word if you 'recycle' a musicians'
song, beat or whatever, without their permission
that's called Biting.
Or in simpler terms STEALING.


Though i see yor point and understand
it fully that still doesn't make it right.
There are too many similarities

(SPOILER alert: but if you've read
the other replies this will come as no shock)

such as the foster/adopted farmboy
living with his uncle
on a farm far away from any others.

I could live with the 'he's our only hope' storyline
but the use of a princess (who hopefully doesn't turn out to be his sister)
a mysterious character who they're not sure can be trusted,
Or even the mentor in hiding
who is the last of his kind except for the Dark Lord....
ARE YOU SERIOUS.

I'm beginning to think i only liked this
movie b/c it reminded me of another,
Call it recycling if you must but you
can see why it is a bit much.

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 05:50 PM

A bit much? Who knows... People who watch horror movies are basically watching the same type of plot over and over. No matter where it takes place or who the characters are, it's pretty much the same set-up. There are always exceptions of course but for the most part this is how horror movies work. Yet people walk away saying "that movie was freakin' awesome." Or how about those comedy movies with Adam Sandler, Will Ferrell, or the Wayans? Those movies are basically the same comedic formula. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I like Eragon. I didn't think it was the best though because of the rush job and really the characters at times were a bit wooden. Anyways...
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Posted 08 January 2007 - 12:24 PM

Ok maybe i came off a bit harsh
but i liked the movie
i was just pointing out the

too obvious similarities.
Those Adam Sandler,Wayans Bros. movies
formula have gotten pretty stale and old.

But i understand the whole horror thing.
Which is probably why i don't
watch the genre of film.

I agree the film seemed rushed
and the ending was unsatisfying
but overall decent.

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 07:34 PM

Holy crap! You're like the first forum poster I have seen to have a decent conversation with and correct the misunderstanding. Well, there goes my stereotype of forum posters. A new day has dawned. Yeah, the formula for it was similar and that's probably why I liked the movie because of the familiarity. Plus, I personally think the kid was better in that role than Mark Hamill. Don't get me wrong, I like the original Star Wars like a fish loves water, but Luke Skywalker in Star Wars was a bit off for me. I dunno...
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 03:49 PM

Well well
changing the world one poster at a time.

Again i agree that 'That Guy'
who played Eragon was better.

Only 'cuz Mark Hamill's
whining in ANH made me MAD.

As for us getting along
it probably has something to do with

the Jade in both our names.

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 01:20 AM

QUOTE (TruJade @ Jan 9 2007, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well well
changing the world one poster at a time.

Again i agree that 'That Guy'
who played Eragon was better.

Only 'cuz Mark Hamill's
whining in ANH made me MAD.

As for us getting along
it probably has something to do with

the Jade in both our names.


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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:09 PM

QUOTE (Gobbler @ Dec 29 2006, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Being creative is harder than it sounds these days, eh? sleep.gif


dude, i dont know about all that. George Lucas is proof positive that creativity never dies. Who else could think up characters like Jar-Jar & Boss Nass (b.k.a Biggie Smalls reincarnate ) and conjure some of the worst lines to give to those that star in the saga's films.

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (civilian_number_two @ Dec 30 2006, 08:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really a lot of the similarities with DUNE got weeded out with the successive rewrites, but with original terms like Jedi Bendu and the idea of opening the book with a prophecy, STAR WARS has a DUNE-like feel to it. The big sandworm skeleton on the desert planet remains the most overt homage. BUt yeah, STAR WARS is based on a lot of stuff. Again, not that there's much wrong with that; it was sorta the point of STAR WARS that it was a throwback to pulp sci-fi. I would have the same shrug in store for anyone who complained about all the pop culture referencing in PULP FICTION. tongue.gif


one thing that didn't get weeded out was the LOTR template. and before we go into hero's journey, the similarites there are vague compared to SW on LOTR.
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