[Egfu]

Oh yeah, I have a Gamecube. It's my only console too, so I've used it a lot, and it still works perfectly. Then again, I'm an obsessive freak who takes the best possible care of his consoles, so no wonder. Too bad the Cube was such a failure of a console, though.

As for the Wii... I don't know. I'll just state it right from the start: I have no faith in the controller. I'm sure it's like the double screen on DS, a gimmick that stops amusing you after a couple of hours of playing. I only care about the games. And when it comes to those, Nintendo's falling short. It seems like all the developers are rushing to think of games that make good use of the controller, rather than games that are as great as possible. The Wii's game collection is full of crappy last-gen ports, mini game collections, tech demos and. of course, games that are just plain bad (Red Steel).

Then again, launch games always suck. I'm sure in time the good games will start rolling in. That's why I'll wait before deciding if I'm buying it. I am a long-time Nintendo fan, after all.

This post has been edited by Egfu: 18 December 2006 - 11:11 AM

[looktothesky]

As for the Wii... I don't know. I'll just state it right from the start: I have no faith in the controller. I'm sure it's like the double screen on DS, a gimmick that stops amusing you after a couple of hours of playing. I only care about the games. And when it comes to those, Nintendo's falling short. It seems like all the developers are rushing to think of games that make good use of the controller, rather than games that are as great as possible. The Wii's game collection is full of crappy last-gen ports, mini game collections, tech demos and. of course, games that are just plain bad (Red Steel).

All launches are like this. I'm sure the Wii will pick up in a few months / years. The PS3 is falling short as well. Resistance - Fall of Man is a horrible game, and does not stand out that much at all despite being on a 'fancy' console. Not to mention Genji. Playing those games, I noticed that the game developers are doing the same thing.

"Lets make a game that'll look great, has awesome DOF effects, displays realistic fire, water, and fog, and then afterwards we'll make sure there's a hollow story and next to no character development!"

[TruJade]

Game cube is alright .....
Nintendo64 is really where is at

[Vesuvius]

Hmmm, ....what I look for in a game is solid control, good music, and gets to the point of the story. Ocarina of Time was the best Zelda game for the N64. I loved Bomberman, Mario Kart, F-Zero X, and the Star Wars titles, along with a few FPS with good music, ex: Doom 64!

As for the Cube, the graphics were very impressive except for Windwaker. (Sorry guys, I hated it all aorund. Just because it says "Zelda" doesn't always mean it's good.) Metroid Prime was the game I liked most. Good control, excellent music, (had to buy the soundtrack) and alright story. Only a few racing games and SW titles did I get into.

Super NES to me was the absolute best Nintendo console. I don't care how much visually impressive 3-D crap comes out, I will not be impressed by it too much. I love sidescrolling adventures! Super Metroid, Street Fighter II, Killer Instinct (had to buy the soundtrack), Mario Kart, Kirby Super Star, and the number one game IMO Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. Best stories, best music, simple graphics that got the point accross.

As for Wii, and it's Wii-mote, ....(sigh) It's just a system out to be in the race for who has the most stuff under the hood now. This new Zelda title looks dissaponting, (again, I'm sorry) Games are becoming easier to make and there's no real "art" being used anymore. All the 3-D polygon graphics are easy to make, compared to actually hand-drawing all the sprites and animating them.

Best game to date still with hand-drawn sprites is Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike! The best SF game in the series that I will still hook up the ol' Dreamcast to play.

[Spoon Poetic]

I've actually watched several hours of the new Zelda game played when my roommate picked up the Gamecube version. Supposedly the only difference between it and the Wii version is the world is reversed, so that Wii Link can be right-handed (blasphemy, I say!). So far, I really like it. There are a few things I thought were a little corny - like how they reference back to previous games a bit much - but I won't spoil anything - but I did really enjoy what I've seen.

And I totally agree that SNES is the best console ever. Period. Okay, so you only said best Nintendo console - but I think it beats everything. I still play mine quite often.

[Egfu]

All launches are like this. I'm sure the Wii will pick up in a few months / years. The PS3 is falling short as well. Resistance - Fall of Man is a horrible game, and does not stand out that much at all despite being on a 'fancy' console. Not to mention Genji. Playing those games, I noticed that the game developers are doing the same thing.

"Lets make a game that'll look great, has awesome DOF effects, displays realistic fire, water, and fog, and then afterwards we'll make sure there's a hollow story and next to no character development!"

Yeah, that's what I said at the end of my post. I mean, the 360 actually looks like the best of the three systems right now, but a year ago I would've rather had my face peeled off than considered buying it.

Super NES to me was the absolute best Nintendo console.

Seconded. Or thirded, whatever. By that time, game developers were able to design games in a challenging, yet not frustrating way, and the whole industry wasn't yet that polluted with this "bigger is better" crap. And for the record, Super Mario World is still the best game ever. If you can complete it 20 times and still not be bored of it, the developers did something right.

Aaand on yet another note, I do believe I'll be getting the GC version of the new Zelda this Christmas. Sounds better than the Wii version, to be honest. I prefer the classic controls and it's not inverted either.

[Chefelf]

I'm sorry, I've been silent for a while but I can't go on any longer. I'd first like to say that I'm twenty-nine friggin' years old and I'm SUPER PSYCHED about getting my grubby hands on a Wii.

I've been a Nintendo fan since day one. I played the hell out of Donkey Kong on my Intellivision and the original NES may be my favorite console of all time. I remember getting it for Christmas when I was little and I remember the first time I played it so vividly it's like it happened yesterday.

For the past few years I've been really skeptical about Nintendo. It seems like they'd made a lot of really stupid decisions (like to repeatedly deny the importance of online gaming in favor of connectivity) and then later to decide on changing the name from Revolution to Wii (which was reacted to so harshly but immediately faded away).

Overall Nintendo's focus has been on the games. It's a strategy that did them wrong for a few years but people have finally wised up to the fact that processing power is not that important and now it's working in their favor. Their system looks fun. The 360 is pretty cool too but so far the PS3 looks like a disaster on every front.

Also, it's cheap. It's cheaper than the Gamecube was when it was realeased five years ago. And it's not trying to be something it's not (a media center, a BluRay player, an HD-DVD, a home media center, etc.) it's just a gaming system and a damn slick one.

To attack the Wii for its choice of controller is to ignore the entire history of Nintendo which is a history in gaming innovation, particularly in the area of controllers. Not to sound like a know-it-all Daddy-type asshole, but some of you are too young to remember how much of an innovation the original NES gamepad was. Before them (with the possible exception of the Intellivision controller), the game controller was largely a joystick/button combination. To take this entire format and literally rebuild it in a new form was risky but changed gaming forever. They did this again with the SNES controller (upping the ante from the genesis controller) by adding additional buttons as well as top index finger L and R buttons which are common place in every new controller. They did it yet again with the N64 by creating a very unorthodox controller featuring an analog thumbstick (now standard on any system) and a strange new asymetrical design complete with independent camera controls (yet again, standard in just about any game on any system these days).

To discount the Wii for its controller (which by all accounts looks to be a gaming innovation the likes of which the world has never seen) is completely unfair. I admit, I'm skeptical of the controller, I've been gaming with a non-motion driven controller for roughtly 29 years and I am a little skeptical of trying something new. However, I have faith not only in the nearly universal praise and accolades lavished on the new system's gaming mechanics but on Nintendo which has been revolutionizing gaming controls for several decades with almost universal success.

I think in the long term that the Gamecube may be viewed as the least successful (at least critically) of Nintendo's systems. The Wii is going to live up to its previous name by being truly revolutionary.

[Vesuvius]

Alrighty, Chef, you nailed it on the head about Nintendo being inovative when it came to new design. And I'm only 4 years behind you in age. What I lack in those 4 years was easily made up for to me by my dad who had some of the oldest of the Atari systems. So I know where you're coming from with how simple joysticks have evolved (because of Nintendo) into impressive controllers.

The only thing is, when the first NES came out, I was in a very small percent that actually didn't want one. I enjoyed Lego's, Construx, and G.I. Joe's! And a few G.I. Joe's would have been a hell of a lot cheaper than a brand new Nintendo that I didn't want. But it was my dad's decision to get one, and say it was for me when in fact he was glued to it, just as he was glued to the Atari.

Sure, Nintendo is inovative, and they've come a long way since "spinach green screen" Gameboys, now to the DS, and they were the first (I think) with the whole Rumble Pack, and now all controllers vibrate for any system. They even started this whole camera craze with that camera that you hook up to your Gameboy and you could upload your picture on peoples heads in Perfect Dark. Nintendo was always coming out with things that made gameplay different for all systems. And I will give them and their developers of software and hardware credit where credit is due.

But, (heh heh heh) in my experiences, as I became loyal to them, from my parents buying me Nintendo things and it all satisfied me, as I got older and paid for my own Nintendo products, I found that the quality of things was diminishing rapidly. N64 was tolerable because the 'Cube was on it's way, and when the 'Cube came out, it died on me for no reason at all and Nintendo acted like they had never heard of these problems when in fact, a lot of people I talked to in game stores were all having the same problems. Their first gen systems of the 'Cube didn't last up to two years.

My biggest gripe was how they built up their fan-base and we were willing to forgive them for the suck that became of N64, and all of us diehard fans got our 'Cubes here in Florida and they all broke at the same time, down to the frikkin' week! I won't trust first gen systems and I will see what the Wii's games will consist of before I make any purchases. I don't want to be stuck with a system, looking like a total Wii-tard because I bought it and it broke or there are really no good games on it at all.

[civilian_number_two]

After 18 hours in three separate line (the first two, obviously, unsuccessful), I got my 12-year-old nephew a Wii. I plan also to give him the Zelda game as a stocking stuffer. I don't think in the new year he'll complain as much that I seldom visit

[TruJade]

As for the Cube, the graphics were very impressive except for Windwaker. (Sorry guys, I hated it all aorund. Just because it says "Zelda" doesn't always mean it's good.) Metroid Prime was the game I liked most. Good control, excellent music, (had to buy the soundtrack) and alright story. Only a few racing games and SW titles did I get into.

Let me start off with
Please tell me it is Not called a Wii-mote.

that's soo tacky it's corny, and a few other things i can't think of.

You are right about the quality of Zelda games, but people just aren't listening.
And Zeldas AlWAYS sell out even if the review is horrible.

For the past few years I've been really skeptical about Nintendo. It seems like they'd made a lot of really stupid decisions (like to repeatedly deny the importance of online gaming in favor of connectivity) and then later to decide on changing the name from Revolution to Wii (which was reacted to so harshly but immediately faded away).

Also, it's cheap. It's cheaper than the Gamecube was when it was realeased five years ago. And it's not trying to be something it's not (a media center, a BluRay player, an HD-DVD, a home media center, etc.) it's just a gaming system and a damn slick one.

OHHH
wow chef wicked PS3/XBox360 burn
Ah delicious!

As for the name
i think Revolution is WAAAAAY better than Wii

Perhaps if they re-release the controllers with a grip
(so the killing of the Tvs can cease)
they'll go back to basics

[Jordan]

N64 had wave race and Golden eye. Based on that I can forgive them for the other crappy games.

[civilian_number_two]

Perfect Dark was also pretty awesome, for single player anyway. The multi-play wasn't quite right.

[Chefelf]

Sure, Nintendo is inovative, and they've come a long way since "spinach green screen" Gameboys, now to the DS, and they were the first (I think) with the whole Rumble Pack, and now all controllers vibrate for any system.

Thank you, I completely skipped over the rumblepack thing which is, of course, standard place now (except in the PS3 I think due to some licensing SNAFU).

After 18 hours in three separate line (the first two, obviously, unsuccessful), I got my 12-year-old nephew a Wii. I plan also to give him the Zelda game as a stocking stuffer. I don't think in the new year he'll complain as much that I seldom visit

Wow, you will win the best uncle of the year award for sure.

Let me start off with
Please tell me it is Not called a Wii-mote.

Not officially, but it's what everyone calls it so the name will probably stick. What're you gonna do?

As for the name
i think Revolution is WAAAAAY better than Wii

Yeah, well, you're probably right but after people said it a few dozen times it wore off and everyone got used to it. I always thought Revolution was a little too generic sounding anyway. It's like calling it the Nintendo Awesome. Wii is silly but whatever.

N64 had wave race and Golden eye. Based on that I can forgive them for the other crappy games.

And Super Mario 64, and Ocarina of Time. They did have a load of crappy games but so does every system. I bought the N64 on release day and have to say that the worst part was that the two launch titles were Super Mario 64 and Pilotwings and those were the ONLY games available for MONTHS! If one of them wasn't Super Mario 64 then it would have been a lot harder to swallow. Even I caved eventually and bought Pilotwings which I regretted immediately.

At least subsequent systems have come out with much stronger launches.

[barend]

If there's one thing i've learned over the years, it's that electricity and Wii don't mix!!!

[Egfu]

Yeah, well, you're probably right but after people said it a few dozen times it wore off and everyone got used to it. I always thought Revolution was a little too generic sounding anyway. It's like calling it the Nintendo Awesome. Wii is silly but whatever.

My brother still calls it the Nintendo Unmentionable.