Repetition and ignorance. Let's see....
Storm: [Points out legitimate flaw in OT movie]
Basher: [Defends the OT the only way they know how to, by pointing out a worse flaw in the PT]
Storm: [Explains that "defending a flaw by explaining how it's not as bad as something else that occured in the PT" is not a legitimate defense]
Basher: You're just a stupid PT lover, therefore you cannot think!
And the cycle repeats again, and again, and again.....
No offence, but that's the lamest bullshit I’ve ever seen put down.
did you type that shit with a straight face?
The only reason you ever "point out" a "flaw" in the OT is IN defence of the PT to draw attention from your lame devotion to it.
"oh noes, they can surf lava because Luke can pilot an X-wing" and so on... what are you, 4?
but let's take this point by point;
Storm: [Points out legitimate flaw in OT movie]The word legitimate does not apply there. What legitimate flaws have you uncovered? They’re just films FFS. you can take some things for granted, but they don't turkey slap you and say this is impossible. There are admittedly moments of improbability that do little to offend or extend the wiling suspension of disbelief, but not insultingly impossible within the confines of the futuristic world they inhabit.
Basher: [Defends the OT the only way they know how to, by pointing out a worse flaw in the PT]first of all, it's not the only way, that's the most insulting thing anyone has ever typed on here.
1. Pointing out comparatively and insurmountably worse flaws in the PT is merely the easiest and most obvious choice as it truly is what drives the biggest wedge between the two sets.
2. Actually, i have attacked the PT flaws with much study and sited both scientific studies, sci-fi /fantasy commonology, and SW precedent introduced by the OT. (which, as i hope you understand is responsible for all prerequisites and standards, and therefore unavoidably essential as they are the ONLY referential material available.) but you continue to not only refuse to acknowledge those damning points, but now accuse me of never having made them at all...
i must say your argument is quite feeble by this point.
Storm: [Explains that "defending a flaw by explaining how it's not as bad as something else that occurred in the PT" is not a legitimate defense]nor is excusing a flaw in the PT by fabricating one in the OT.
Basher: You're just a stupid PT lover, therefore you cannot think!actually this is quite an inaccurate interpretation of my view point.
i actually believe it to be vice versa; that one's inadequacy in the cerebral department qualifies them for enjoyment of the PT.
It's sickening how much some people are here in denial about the quality of the OT. I acknowledge that they were spectacular to watch as a kid, but that feeling of nostalgia is dying away as I just sit back, watch, and realize how totally unrealistic and stupid all 6 movies are.
Again nostalgia is not the ticket here. if it were I would equally love watching thundercats, but that shit is just stupid now that I’m an adult, whereas star wars has a timless quality to it despite the dated haircuts, technological advancements, and further education and scientific awarness. By it's merits for the time it came out it's fine. Comparison to the PT is not only inevitable, IT'S THE WHOLE DAMN POINT!!!
the PT is meant to fit in with the OT and it doesn't!!! that completely necessitates constant comparisons and warrants die-templative fucking stress checks!!!
THE only reason the OT comes up in arguments against the PT is because the PT is meant to match!!! if it did in just the tinest way, we wouldn't be having this argument. so you may be sick of it, but that's what you get for saying that the PT is in the same ballpark.
it's like saying 'life is peachy' by Korn is as classic a metal album as 'master of puppets' by mettallica. i don't refute that because of my 80s nostalgia, but because MOP is a fast paced, intense piece of work drawing influences from diverse sources including Black Sabbath, Killing Joke, and even David Bowie. Whereas Korn are a bunch of homie ass wankers who detune their guitars because they can't write a heavy riff. and were they to use normal instruments, they'd just be another boy-band.
Barend, I think what you meant to say is "leave the OT (and PT) movies to the man children of the world". There's a reason so many people dislike Star Wars in general.
no i meant exactly what i said; "so leave intellectualizing films to the grown ups."
because your attempts to match those of who know what we're talking about is undermined by you questionable taste in films. So don't try to enfeeble me with your words whilst mine are quite adequate.
This post has been edited by barend: 03 August 2006 - 09:30 PM