[SimeSublime]

Sime, you've just gotten yourself a die-hard fan.

[Kirby]

I liked DS9.

Me too.

[civilian_number_two]

Some of those "Spin-offs" aren't really spin-offs at all, esp "Laverne and Shirley" and "Mork and Mindy." To spin off a show, you have to us eelements from the original show to create a new show. L&S and M&M merely showcased their characters on "Happy Days" to get viewer interest; they were never a part of the "Happy Days" storyline. So too "The Simpsons;" while it was showcased on The Tracey Ullman show, that was a variety program. Its elements were independent of one another. I would say the same for "Frasier" and "Joey," both of which simply transplanted a character to a different setting. In Frasier's case they resurrected his dad and gave him a brother he'd never had. I thought the show was ok, but it cheated a bit. I can't fathom how the MSN folks think Joey, the "dumb one" was Friends's "most interesting character." Maybe that show was worse than I thought (I hated it).

I like Jame Marsters or whatever his name is, but Spike killed "Buffy" as well as "Angel." Buffy had a great ending in Season 5, and then it just went stupid in Six and Seven. Seriously, everyone just says "But I liked the Musical!" What ELSE did you like about season six? Season Seven -ugh - I don't think anyone liked any of that (the evil preacher was fun, but meaningless and not really a part of the central plot). Keeping Spike around, and then moving him to the other show, just because the fans liked him, is a classic shark-jump, or at best a case of lazy, phone-it-in writing. Season 5 of Angel was a total waste of time (although I liked the final episode).

Most of that other stuff I agree with.

[barend]

frasier is by definition a spin off.

as lilith was kept on, diane appeared several times, the entire cast of cheers all did at least one cameo, and on many occasions references were made to events that took place on cheers.

you're right about 'mork & mindy' and 'levern & shirley' as mork, levern, and shirley, were all guest appearances and not regulars who'se lives we continued on with. If they'd given Suzie Quatro's character a show then maybe. never saw J love C... so no comment but it's adquate conceptually for the title 'spin off'

mad about you was another thin thread of a connection to be called a spin off on th eshoulders of seinfeld as kramer appeared in an early episode (if not the first) when the Buchman visits his old flat in Jerry's building.

Star TRek TNG isn't really what you'd call a 'spin off' as much as it was a sequel, as it continued the legacy of gene rodenberries vision and contined work... where as the others were nerdy crap thrown together to keep the fans emptying their wallets in blind devotion to products that no longer shared the original vision.

you're right about the simpsons. it was 3 minute show that became a 23 minute show.

[looktothesky]

I liked Joey...

[barend]

[Marky]

Friends was pretty bad stuff, but occasionally you had a luagh or two during half an hour... Then they made 'Joey'...

[Sailor Abbey]

Friends was pretty bad stuff, but occasionally you had a luagh or two during half an hour... Then they made 'Joey'...

Yeah Friends sucked ass. I’ll never understand why it had such a huge following. Courtney Cox was kinda cute back when the show first started, then she turned into Skeletor.

[barend]

which is kind of ironic