[barend]

lap dogs: the salacious crumb to George Lucas' Jabba the Hutt

[Cobnat]

lap dogs: the salacious crumb to George Lucas' Jabba the Hutt

Or Jabba the Slut. HAHAHA. I hope that made some sense.

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[barend]

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[jariten]

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[barend]

OH! hahahahahha

[KurganX]

Yeah Lucas has said many times he intended all six, nine, twelve or whoever many movies to be all told from the perspective of the droids, the real man characters of the saga.

While at the same time saying that "it's really the story of the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker."

[Revan-47]

I NOTICED TAHT GEORGE LIUCAS DIDNT HAVE A TAIL SO I :{p{{{ ** NOTICED THAT HE DIDNT HAE ONE YET SO I HACKED OFF ALL OF MY PETS TAILS INA HONAR OF THE LUCAS MASTER THWARGGGGGFUGAHHHHHHHHHHHH!?!?!?!?!?!

[jariten]

Yeah Lucas has said many times he intended all six, nine, twelve or whoever many movies to be all told from the perspective of the droids, the real man characters of the saga.

Give me two quotes (so we can be sure) where he said this. I personally heard him say this about ANH only, which is the only film (as ive said) where the concept is even remotly explored.

The fact is that it was just another thing Lucas ripped off another director (Kurasawa and Hidden Fortress to be precise) and even then the idea only works for streaches (and certain shots) of the film.

[Cobnat]

Anikan ruined most of TPM for me, but I still consider it good or fair becouse of the other parts in the movie.

[Despondent]

Give me two quotes (so we can be sure) where he said this. I personally heard him say this about ANH only, which is the only film (as ive said) where the concept is even remotly explored.

The fact is that it was just another thing Lucas ripped off another director (Kurasawa and Hidden Fortress to be precise) and even then the idea only works for streaches (and certain shots) of the film.

Get me two posters who deny the possibility.

[jariten]

I was told (by you) that it was a fact that the OT was related through the eyes of the droids, and this is something else that Lucas fucked up with the PT. I explained (fairly well I thought) why I thought this wasn't the case and I asked you to provide your case as to why you thought this was true.

I got- NOTHING.

I was told there were "numerous quotes" to back up the idea that the narrative was supposed to come from the droids in all 3 OT films. I asked for evidence.

I got- NOTHING.

Which means (tap tap tap) that i'm still waiting for SOMETHING to show me that i'm wrong.

[barend]

alot of people felt that way about the holiday special...

i spent years trying to convince people i had seen additional material, and so few believed....

but it got out in the end and no heaps of people have it on DVD...

i have recolections of lucas saying that everything was meant to be from the droids perspective and to be honest the two times luke faces vader and the conversation between luke and lieah in ROTJ, (and of course empire POV) are generally the only times in which the droids aren't present...

they may not be in every shot but they are generally there...

in the PT much longer stretches of time go past with out them...

but more infuriatingly having C3p0's memory wiped rather defeats the purpose of him being there at all...

C3P0: what a desolate place this is...
R2D2: what? oh right... you had your memory wiped... you were made here... obiwan kenobi dropped darth vaders kids off here so we should try to find owen and his hottie girlfriend cause they probably know where obiwan is...
C3P0: what?!? i don't remember being involved in anything like that...
R2D2 : don't you...? not even the time your head got stuck to killbot? that was fucking gold!

[jariten]

Just so as we’re clear on what Lucas meant by this- the idea was originally supposed to be a, uh, homage shall we say to Kurosawas Hidden Fortress, in which 2 bumbling serf types accompany the story around and generally don’t know what’s happening, but we get to figure out the story through their eyes so to speak.

In actual, real practical terms, not only does this not work in Star Wars past A New Hope, I think it only actually works in the first half of the film, roughly until they meet Han and the droids are forgotten or (like R2) become basic devices to move the plot forward.
Personally I think the only shot he had in mind was the shot of 3PO and R2 walking away from the camera after first landing on Tatoonine, which is basically a direct rip off/homage/reference whatever to said Kurosawa film.

I think that Lucas does actually revisit the idea in the PT a little bit in TPM, where sections of the story (mostly on Courascant) are filtered through the POV of either Anakin or JJ, neither of whom really know whats going on and so sort of remind me of those dudes from Hidden Fortress.

[Despondent]

I haven't watched The Hidden Fortress, so I wouldn't have the attitude that it's episode 4 specific. Perhaps You read that Ep 4 was based on THF, so that's the basis for your justified position. Or maybe you figured it out on your own, that's cool.

Just so as we’re clear on what Lucas meant by this- the idea was originally supposed to be a, uh,

Well, I heard that GL said... (and this was when there was no internet. Starlog issues and SW articles were gleaned and scrutinized, but new information on upcoming episodes was the slow release of a three-year trickle.) Well, I read that GL said the droids would be the tie which would bind the trilogies together (since no living person would be around for the complete saga).

Others hold this memory. Additionally, others think as you do. (Maybe we're both right.)

I'm not so interested in what GL ever intended for something to be originally; I'm more interested in revealing him for the fraud he is.

(And if I should remember to be grateful for all he's given me, I need not forget all that he's taken back.)