No one whos given these films even the remotest of glances should be confused by them. I often wonder if some people choose to add complications where there are none.
J m HofMarN said:
How did Jango Fett have dealings with Sifo Dias?
who said he did?
Who was Sifo Dias?
The Jedi who ordered the clone army.
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The origins of the bad guys were all not only left un-clear, but they were completely unrelated
Which "bad guys"?
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They weren't recruited, they didn't come to Palpatine as a result of events, they just popped up
What?
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Or, in the case of Sifo Dias, were used as clues and excuses and then never even mentioned again
He wasn't mentioned again because he didnt need to be mentioned again.
"I was recruited by Tyranus on one of the moons of Bolkton (sp?)"
There you go. Pay attention at the end, and you hear Sid call Dooku "Lord Tyranus", and you could predict events from RotS from that (Lucas is making these things to be watched in sequence remember)
Dooku created the clone army.
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Both Dooku's speech ot Obi Wan in AOTC and Palps opera speech to Anakin in ROTS could have been used to flesh out the histpory and relations of the characters that didn't get any screen time, but this opportunity was ignored entirely.
again, you're unclear about what you need and why.
NEXT
[quote="Barend"]Sifo Dias
AKA darth PlagusIts funny how you always talk about "ITS ONLY WHATS IN THE MOVIES THEMSELVES THATS IMPORTANT!" (which is something I agree with btw) then come out with stuff like this that exists only in your own mind.
Tell you what, show me where in ANY of the Star Wars films where Sifo Dias is the same character as Plagus and i'll retract my 'hypocrite' allegation.
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Darth Plagueis
AKA Sifo Dias
same goes for that.
IN YOUR OWN WORDS:
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yes, exactly... that's what i just said. if not developed there, what's the point. we're discussing the films. THE FILMS. THE MOVIES!!!! UNDERSTAND?!?
if he's characters background is written on the wall of some toilet in a slezy whore house in New MExico i don't give a flying FUCK!
the muthafucker got no background in the trillogy. who is he? we don't know...
some geek: "If you purchase the chronicals of...
SHUT UP!!!!
MOVIE!!!!=STORY ON FILM!!!
if you can't understand that you never will...
don't EVER bring up that lame dispelled crap again!!!
shall we continue?
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Count Dooku
underdeveloped bad guy
General Greivous
Completeley non-developed bad guy.
I dont see what this has to do with the OP, but these characters were developed in exactly the right amount that they needed to be. I'll show you.
Dooku= the charasmatic leader of the sepratist army, who left the Jedi order.
Also a sith (revealed at the end) who has been turned by a sith,
showing us that it can be done.Please explain why we need to know more than that. and if so, what?
Greivous=the ugly droid leader of the droid army, spearheading the sep. fight against the Jedi in the clone wars.
along with Dooku, one of two leaders, hence the Jedis need to catch him.
A foreshadowing of Vader at the end of the film.
same question as before.
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Palpatine
sat down had a chat, "Oh BTW My master is dead and i made you" with anikan
This is what I meant at the start. Not only do I have no idea why you wrote that, Palps
implied that his master made Anakin, not him.
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the Jedi archives
?????????
My 8 year old cousin knew it was Dooku after AotC. I know you did too.
the clones
made by boba fetts dad for some reason... paid for by Sifoplagus, stolen by palpatine, then by obiwan and given to palpatine to fight the droids owned by dooku who's working for Palpatine.
again, its hard to take this stuff seriously, Barend. all of this is in the films and is quite simple. I know you know this, which means you're doing it on purpose, but for the sake of completion:
Jango was hired by Dooku to make the clones (see above quote)
I dont know who paid for the clones (do we need too?) but it was probably some rich combination of Palps and Dooku AND all those clans and whatnot had joined the seps.
"stolen by papatine" what?
"then by obiwan" what?
"to fight the droids etc...." PALPATINE CREATED THE WAR. CHRIST THIS IS THE CENTRAL IDEA BEHIND PAPATINES RISE TO POWER. did you like the use of caps there?
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The quote function doesnt seem to be working for me (!?) thats why the quotes are in bold and look strange.
This post has been edited by jariten: 17 March 2006 - 09:08 PM