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Posted 15 April 2006 - 10:52 PM

It's on the second disc with the other deleted scenes.
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Posted 16 April 2006 - 03:21 AM

Its not on the DVD.
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Posted 16 April 2006 - 04:32 AM

So I suppose then, since it wasn't in the original film, we can also drop the Jabba / Han scene on Tatooine too? Did that happen or not? Or what about the other additions to the OT? Since, you know, none of them were on the original VHS and all...
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Posted 16 April 2006 - 04:41 AM

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Its not on the DVD.


You sure about that?

From Amazon.com's page for Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace Widescreen Edition DVD: "Exclusive deleted-scenes documentary features seven new sequences completed just for this DVD release: Complete Podrace Grid Sequence, Extended Podrace Lap Two, The Waterfall Sequence, The Air Taxi Sequence, Dawn Before the Race, Anakin's Scuffle with Greedo , Farewell to Jira. "

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Posted 16 April 2006 - 04:45 AM

It's not difficult. If its in the film then its in the film. If its not in the film then its not in the film.

Hense, if in 20 years Lucas adds the Greedo scene back to the film, then it can be considered and justifiably used as a criticism.

Until then...
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Posted 16 April 2006 - 05:03 AM

20 years does seem to be a bit much.

Though, as I pointed out before, if Lucas has his way, we'll probably be seeing the unwanted edition of pointless scenes to the movie by next year.

Who knows, maybe we'll be seeing Anakin finally able to beat up Greedo in 3D. laugh.gif
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE (jariten @ Apr 16 2006, 04:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not difficult. If its in the film then its in the film. If its not in the film then its not in the film.

Hense, if in 20 years Lucas adds the Greedo scene back to the film, then it can be considered and justifiably used as a criticism.

Until then...



i don't know... most of things cut were cut due to timing...
it was a matter of what he thought was important enough to keep.

personnally though i think he's made some poor choices with the ep3 deleted scenes.

some would have a been a real benifit to the film...




but the fact that he even filmed the greedo fight was lame...

finding out that peter jackson had filmed sequences of Arwen fighting in Helmsdeep put a bloody sour taste in my mouth... but as the film was pretty kick ass it was a good descision...

when some has alot of lame scenes and you find out there were more, it's just too hard to not add them to the pile of complaints.
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 11:19 PM

But you understand why you can't though, right?

(and what ep3 deleted scenes are you referring to out of interest?)

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 11:24 PM

Jariten is just goading everyone. I agree about leaving scenes out of the prequels, although I'm hard-pressed to decide which I'd most like removed. Not that there's a risk I'll ever see any of them again, anyway. I'm with Harmonica's tune: I ain't buying it.

They never mentioned Wald's name outright in the film. Therefore, I deem his name is of no significance.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 01:31 AM

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They never mentioned Wald's name outright in the film


It was in the credits.

You're right about it being of no significance though. At least until people started mistaking him for Greedo. Then the guy took on a whole life of his own.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 01:34 AM

All except the part where he knew Greedo, right? Because the fact that it wasn't in the final cut of the first release is crucial to everything. cool.gif I hear ya.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 03:31 AM

QUOTE (Despondent @ Apr 18 2006, 01:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All except the part where he knew Greedo, right? Because the fact that it wasn't in the final cut of the first release is crucial to everything. cool.gif I hear ya.


Sorry D you've lost me. But perhaps thats for the best.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 07:49 AM

Sticking your fingers in your ears is a good argument, too.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 05:45 PM

To what?

The fact that he isn't in the film, and so cant be considered part of the film?

I don't see how we can even argue about that, its just a fact.

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 08:54 PM

Well maybe if we're real lucky he'll be included in the next release of Ep. 2. Personally, I don't see another big demand. Heck, maybe he'll even pull a boba, and Greedo will appear in Episode V along with IG-88 and Changeling Lady.

edit: NOT Ep 2. It's episode one we're arguing, right? They're SO ingrained in memory. rolleyes.gif



If the "Storm's a-comin' Annie" woman (You know her name, I'd wager nobody else here does) isn't in the 3-D version; she never existed, right? How about the Anchorhead gang? What about Darth Plageius' Father? They ever mention HIM? Another virgin birth?

No, because there are a lot of things we presume. Of course Darth Plageius had a father.
And the first bit of TPM is so riddled with meeting younger versions of characters we grew up with; who honestly DIDN'T think it was baby greedo?

I'd also bet that GL's employees said "George, you don't have to show those scenes. Everybody thinks Wickett is Greedo anyway, so instead, lets..." GL: "replace it with ANOTHER Jar-Jar scene. Glad I thought of it!"

This post has been edited by Despondent: 18 April 2006 - 09:16 PM

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