So, after all is said and done regarding the PT, do you think its really all a lame attempt by GL to channel the creative energy that Peter Jackson brought to the Lord of the Rings Trilogy? He must have read the inside trade mags, and they weren't too far from New Zealand where LOTR was filmed when ATOC was done at Fox Studios, Australia. Jackson had Andy Serkis as Gollum and used him to great effect whereas Ahmed Best in TPM and in smaller spurts afterward weren't employed successfully in the PT. Lucas poached Christopher Lee and gave him little or nothing to do, almost as if he were saying "I can get Christopher Lee in my movie too" more content on his appearance there than giving him an actual role to play. Jackson seemed to have a really good plan in shooting a film that was viewable in the theatres and then releasing extended versions afterward for the superfans, whereas Lucas didn't really seem to have a definative vision from one film to the other for all three installments. Jackson really studied Tolkein's works whereas Lucas seemed to not even glance at his own OT or notes when he wrote them from the fabled notebook.
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Ya Think Lucas Was trying To Channel Peter Jackson? After all is said and done (unfortunately) with the PT.....
#2
Posted 19 December 2005 - 07:58 PM
yes, but such things are common.
the GCI team confessed that seeing gollum in TTT made them rework yoda for ep3.
christopher lee playing a count at least shows tha lucas knew he had hired, but still underused him. Lee has too much presence to be killed by some punk.
like i've said before... Vader in the suit should have killed Dooku.
the GCI team confessed that seeing gollum in TTT made them rework yoda for ep3.
christopher lee playing a count at least shows tha lucas knew he had hired, but still underused him. Lee has too much presence to be killed by some punk.
like i've said before... Vader in the suit should have killed Dooku.
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#3
Posted 20 December 2005 - 11:28 AM
Seems kinda funny considering that Jackson was one of a few directors who paid lip service to how George Lucas made it possible for films like the Lord of the Rings trilogy and other large scale epics of the last two decades to be made in the first place. Lucas went from being the inspiring force to ripping off those he inspired.
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#4
Posted 20 December 2005 - 03:11 PM
QUOTE (Lord Aquaman @ Dec 20 2005, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems kinda funny considering that Jackson was one of a few directors who paid lip service to how George Lucas made it possible for films like the Lord of the Rings trilogy and other large scale epics of the last two decades to be made in the first place. Lucas went from being the inspiring force to ripping off those he inspired.
For the OT, Lucas lifted many a concept from artists/directors who were deceased or close to it. The feature in the DVD boxed set "The Force Is With Them" regarding SW's influence on directors like Cameron and Jackson is a major butt smooch session. I'm surprised that the same DVD set acknowledged the mess ANH was before the editors salvaged it to the film we love today (well, maybe a few years ago before all the "Special" additions...). Its a notable reflection upon the state of things when Lucas controls everything, from his inability/unease of talking to the actors he's supposedly there to direct. Since he farmed stuff from the Buck Rogers serials among other sources for the OT, its odd he didn't do the same for the PT. That's why a lot of the CGI crap looks as if he got a spy report telling him "Jackson is having a CGI character with a prominent role, you should too...." At least James Cameron had an idea about how he wanted to use the water alien being in The Abyss, and to his credit, he put the cash down for his own CGI house to do it. Lucas had no direction, no vision for the PT.
#5
Posted 20 December 2005 - 07:06 PM
it's really wierd watching lucas "direct" the actors on the DVD extras of ROTS...
he commands no authority, but is bossy anyway...
like a supermarket manager.
he commands no authority, but is bossy anyway...
like a supermarket manager.
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#6
Posted 20 December 2005 - 10:56 PM
QUOTE (barend @ Dec 20 2005, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it's really wierd watching lucas "direct" the actors on the DVD extras of ROTS...
he commands no authority, but is bossy anyway...
like a supermarket manager.
he commands no authority, but is bossy anyway...
like a supermarket manager.
I haven't seen the DVD of ROTS yet and have little inclination to.I have a bootleg $5 copy of the film I got about a week when it was in the theatres and haven't glanced at that for a while now either. I dread the commentary, especially after the one in ATOC where Lucas was so gleeful over adding sparks to Jango's backpack during the stadium duel, something I wouldn't have known was missing from the film version if he didn't mention it. The man truly has nothing left to say, as was evidenced in the clunky nature of the opening crawl in TPM.
There's supposedly 60 hours of film shot for the ESB, much of it differing angles shot, bloopers, or scenes rightfully dropped.I'd rather have an average pressing of those 60 hours, even if they are repetitive to view than the whole of the PT.
#7
Posted 21 December 2005 - 11:56 AM
QUOTE (Darth Player @ Dec 20 2005, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's supposedly 60 hours of film shot for the ESB, much of it differing angles shot, bloopers, or scenes rightfully dropped.I'd rather have an average pressing of those 60 hours, even if they are repetitive to view than the whole of the PT.
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