[Chyld]

OK, so they made a sequal to Saw. You all know about Saw, there's a thread on it somewhere here. And I saw it, and since I can't be arsed to open Notepad and spunk my words into my site, I'll do it here. Fear ye the odd spoiler or nine.

So, with typical sequally aplomb, this time there's more people, all locked in a house. About six to eight, I think. Sadly, instead of the two fleshed-out characters chained up in Saw, we have a gang of cliches. The Survivor From The Last Film (the chick in the inverse beartrap), The Angry Drug Dealer, The Token Black Guy, The Guy Who Dies Immediatly, and some Pairs Of Breasts. Plus a scary beardy guy and the son of a policeman. In fact, I think only the son and the survivor actually get any backstory. Quite tragic, really.

Perhaps as compensation, the other thread of the story is the policeman of the son and a SWAT team bursting into Jigsaw's workshop (Jigsaw being the killer, in case anyone couldn't be arsed to use that grey memory thing), then spending two hours looking at video feeds of the house, waiting for a tech team, and listening to Jigsaw spout on. And he actually gets fluffing out in this one - its nice to have more of a motive for his tests than "I got bored, so I stuck a key in a mans eye and made him gouge it out". Although one does have to wonder how an ancient-looking old man who's just been in a car crash can pull an iron bar from his midsection without dying of bloodloss, pain, or just old fashioned mashed-up insides. But hey, I didn't write it.

The killings this time weren't quite as gruesome, I thought. For example, the Guy Who Dies Immediatly finds a key, a note saying "Don't use this key on the door", then uses it on the door, setting off a pistol through a looking hole and blowing a hole in his head. Really, what the fuck people. The Black Guy gets his head stoved in with a baseball bat by Angry Drug Dealer, who later gets a saw through the throat from The Son. Compare these to inverted bear traps, rooms filled with barbed wire, and broken glass, flammable stuff, and a candle. Although to be fair, there are some stonkers - the death mask at the start, and the oven worked well for me.

Now, The Twist. I won't give The Twist away, as it'll ruin the whole film. As with the last one. Now, I felt it was quite good - fuckloads more dramatic than the last one. But I have to agree with everyone I went to see it with - in hindsight, it was bloody obvious. One guy in fact said said "I was thinking 'it can't actually be (twist), its too bloody obvious'". Suppose it depends how hard you're paying attention. And while we're on twists, The Son pulls the "I'm Not Dead, Now I'll Kill You, Bad Man" trick that Adam (you know, the guy that wasn't blonde) pulled in the last film. Toy with our expectations, please.

Right, I open the floor. Ladies and gentlemen, get your knives out and start flaming...

EDIT: Its worth noting that I did actually like it. The first film was more gruesome, but the second was overall better. Just so you know.

This post has been edited by Chyld: 31 October 2005 - 12:27 PM

[barend]

hollywood tries so hard to supress anything new or interesting...

and when something a little interesting or cool actuall comes out (i.e. the crow, american psycho, cube, etc.) the powers that be insist there be a crappy sequel...

i hope SAW2 is not one of these...

infact i still never checked out cube2:hypercube...

[WalkingCarpet]

Nope. Didn't quite work for me I'm afraid. I enjoyed the first one, for all its faults *coughcaryelwescough* but this one, without the safety net of novelty value, fell short.

-------There may be spoilers ahead, but while there's moonlight and music and love and romance.......sorry-----------



Too many sterotypical characters doing stereotypical things, i.e. abandoning common sense at every opportunity. I mean, really, you're climbing into an oven at the whim of a man who's quite clearly as mad as a box of frogs and has already tricked one of your house-mates into shooting himself in the head. FFS does it at no point occur to you that yanking wildly at chains inside said contraption could lead to a hot and fiery unpleasantness? Why not wedge that spiky hammer gadget inside the door, just in case?!

Obviously the majority of the people in the house were just pawns in the overall game to get John McClane.......sorry, I mean Detective New Kid On The Block into the trap, but they were so 2 dimensional I'm surprised they couldn't escape through the cracks in the wall.

It seems to go against Jigsaw's whole philosophy. Where is the chance of redemption for these people? Where are the deep spiritual quests that you seem to like dishing out?

How could a plan so intricate rely so heavily on the kid surviving 2-3 hours in that house? The large, disagreeable chap could easily have bludgeoned him round the noggin with something hard and blunt (and I don't mean Donnie Wahlberg), and all of a sudden he has an empty safe and no lesson for the cop.

Oh, and Dina Meyer keeps her clothes on, which was disappointing.

[Sailor Abbey]

Hey I saw this the other day. I didn’t see the first one, but I gotta say, this move sucked ass. I’m a pussy and I get scared pretty easily by movies. I couldn’t sleep for a few days after watching The Ring, I still get freaked out whenever I hear strange clicking sounds after watching Signs, and I can’t go to the carnival anymore without having terrifying flashbacks of Killer Clowns from Outer Space or whatever it was called.

Saw 2 was a total let down. I actually nodded off a few times. To me, being able to see and hear the Jigsaw guy for what he was, just some sick old guy, really took the mystery out of it.

This movie was a waste of time and money. $3.50 to be exact. Rip off!

[Gobbler]

I agree, but it wasn't like Saw 1 was better... introduced some nice psycho-game with some nice scenes of murder, but lacked tension in the end. The only time I was really about to go up the barricades was when the pair of breasts (was there even a person attached to them? Hmm, can't remember...) died. It was the only reason for me to go on watching the movie, after that, I could hardly keep my eyes open.

infact i still never checked out cube2:hypercube...

Then don't do it. And don't even think about watching cube3. It's gonna ruin everything, I promise.

This post has been edited by Gobbler: 31 March 2006 - 08:22 AM

[SithAvenger]

I loved the 2 Saw movies. Jigsaw is definately an interesting character.