[Zatoichi]

Maybe public school really IS bad.

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You're definately right, and it's only getting worse. I went to a small rural school and was in a class of about 105. There were only about thirty people including myself who I believed were very intelligent. This is a New York school with relatively small class rooms in an easy going atmosphere. New York and California have the best public school systems. New books are gotten every 5 years or so. Many of the schools in other states such as Texas (Where Bush was the governor) have books up to 50 years old. Last time I checked, Texas's school system was in shambles. On average, Northern schools are better than Southern schools. The No Child Left Behind Act is ruining the public school system all across the board. I won't go into specifics, but I'm sure it can easily be found. Now you'll just have to trust me on this, because since 2001 I have been talking to friends, family, teachers, professors, and fellow parishoners about this subject. All of whom who had at least a rudimentry knowledge of what was going on.

This probably best explains why Bush got elected twice. The majority of the American public is stupid, and it is acceptable. It's not just the government's fault though. It also has to do with how children are raised and the society in which they live. If you don't believe me, just look at who many people ideolize. For the vast majority of people it is "artists". And by that I mean actors/actresses and singers, not writers, painters, graphic artists, orators, etc. This is not to make a generalization about any one group of people, but for the two groups I mentioned for the vast majority of them their intelligence is like a small flame. Easily snuffed out (it may be a bad analogy, but I had to use it.). For many of the people here, while we may or may not be wrong about various subjects, have an intelligence like that of a roaring inferno. In a contest of all around knowledge, many could outshine those protrayed to be at the top of society.

The fact remains that while knowledge = power, a little knowledge and a lot of wealth = a ton of power. We are a world ruled by the wealthy and for the most part in a sense evil.

[Slade]

Bush passes an act that says "No Child Left Behind" and the lemmings swallow it up without reading about it and discovering the fine print. It doesn't say that a large majority of the funds from the act go to private Christian schools...

If someone ever referred to a celebrity as an artist more naturally than someone who produces things of artistic value in my presence, I would slap him/her.

Social success is based entirely on material wealth, and it's very clear that it doesn't take even an average intelligence level to be wealthy and powerful. The powerful wish to stay in power above all else, and therefore seek to constantly manipulate the weak of mind and succeed. This culture's obsession with the material has become so ingrained that people would rather be placated by their televison sets and take everything at face value so as not to disturb their ignorance than remotely understand what's really going on.

But personally, I blame Bush's re-election on vote fraud and the horrible electoral college system along with human stupidity.

And I'm not even going to get into how public schools fail miserably in other aspects again, either...

[civilian_number_two]

And I'm not even going to get into how public schools fail miserably in other aspects again, either...

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This time it wasn't the failure of public school I was referring to, but its success. Seems by and large folks come out of school feeling like they have a stake in the system. They teach people to be good consumers, and to patriotically want to promote the status quo of the country, pledging allegiance to the flag and knowing very little about the rest of the world. It's interesting how few dissenters this system produces.

I account for Bush's re-election on the grounds that the Electoral College system has been ironed out to generate near 50-50 elections every time, hence there is apathy about voting. Also Kerry seemed like a man with a secret agenda, and he scared some folks off. Unfortunately, Bush actually IS a guy with a secret agenda, but he doesn't seem like one.

Also, gay marriage woould signal the downfall of Western Civilisation, causing comets to hit the Earth, plagues to reign free, and the San Andreas fault to split, and Bush was against it. This didn't have as much an influence as a lot of folks say, but it was an important topic this time around.

[Supes]

Supes: I'd love to see the talk page for that article. :-P

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Ha! I did go for a bit of a look for some responses to this page (that is if you are referring to the Osama Tapes), but didn't find much. Having said that I didn't get a lot of time to look so it was not what I would call a complete search

[barend]

Humans suck.

That's why I've denounced my species and converted.

That's right, I converted.  I'm a Wookie, now.

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really? i'm a robot...

have your people call my people and we'll do lunch.

[Spoon Poetic]

Yes, let's.

[barend]

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[Spoon Poetic]

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That's right, I said it!

[J m HofMarN]

For someone who is a communist you sound awfully anti taxes. I guess you must of also supported Bush's across the board tax decreases too didn't you? Btw i say this because of your reference to linking Lincoln with evilness for also instituting the first income tax..

His Excellency uses money from taxes to actually help people. To train doctors, to build schools, to increase literacy. Tax money in Cuba is not primarily used to go around killing people. The tax system in a communist state is supposed to gather money into a large enough amount that it can be used to make life better for a large number of people. The US government seems to think that taxes are meant to fund wars and invasions and terrorism. I'm not in favor of that kind of tax system, and many others aren't either.

And as for the bullshit defense of Reagan, I personally won't listen to any defense of the "man" if I were to go so far as to call him that. Reagan ranks along with Nixon Stalin and Hitler as some of the most evil men ever to live and I'm very glad that his last words of wisdom were "where am I? who are all of you? I'm sleepy".

As for the specific topic of his economic policies, they increased the deficit dramaticly and they did not benefit the common people. The DJIA, inflation rates, stock prices, all of that is nonsense. Did people have enough to eat? Were there housing programs, breakfast programs, training programs, did people have healthcare? did they have decent jobs?

You can say he lowered unemployment by 1.5 percent. What kind of jobs were they? Jobs where a man could make a living or were they service jobs that humiliate and subjugate people while keeping them in poverty? The numbers look good, but the human face of reaganomics is that of the poor suffering so that the rich could get richer.

[Renegade]

But personally, I blame Bush's re-election on vote fraud and the horrible electoral college system along with human stupidity.

Site proof of voter fraud in his reelection and what does the electoral college have to do with it? He won both the popular vote and that..

[Renegade]

His Excellency uses money from taxes to actually help people. To train doctors, to build schools, to increase literacy. Tax money in Cuba is not primarily used to go around killing people. The tax system in a communist state is supposed to gather money into a large enough amount that it can be used to make life better for a large number of people. The US government seems to think that taxes are meant to fund wars and invasions and terrorism. I'm not in favor of that kind of tax system, and many others aren't either.

And as for the bullshit defense of Reagan, I personally won't listen to any defense of the "man" if I were to go so far as to call him that. Reagan ranks along with Nixon Stalin and Hitler as some of the most evil men ever to live and I'm very glad that his last words of wisdom were "where am I? who are all of you? I'm sleepy".

As for the specific topic of his economic policies, they increased the deficit dramaticly and they did not benefit the common people. The DJIA, inflation rates, stock prices, all of that is nonsense. Did people have enough to eat? Were there housing programs, breakfast programs, training programs, did people have healthcare? did they have decent jobs?

You can say he lowered unemployment by 1.5 percent. What kind of jobs were they? Jobs where a man could make a living or were they service jobs that humiliate and subjugate people while keeping them in poverty? The numbers look good, but the human face of reaganomics is that of the poor suffering so that the rich could get richer.

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You can bash capatalism all you want but in the end of the day, every communist regime has had a failling economy. Why? Simple. It takes away any incentive to work and any incentive for innovation.

As for the 1.5% decrease in unemployement, you fail to realize that what we class as unemployed didnt CHANGE under Reagan. So eitherway, a decrease in it, is still better than nothing. Also, key to note is that America's unemployement despite having supposidly a large povery line, is still at around 5-6% most of time whereas Socialist Europe has virtually 10%+ unemployement across the board. And despite all of Cuba's doctors, there healthcare system still sucks, there country still sucks, there economy is in shambles, and nobody wants to live there, including your ass. Now obviously its because of sanctions, but its also cause that system is inherintly shitty, as seen through a failed Soviet Union, and a failing China until they reverted to some capatalistic virtues.

[Renegade]

Btw, its so funny how you guys come off elitist. One second your like, OMGOMGOGMOGMG Bush is a tyrant he is only supported by the rich! Then when he gets elected AGAIN by 3million + votes, a large amount coming from rural areas and rather poor states, its like OMGGOMGOGM people are stupid, he only won because people aren't as smart as we are.

Perhaps you should wake up, and maybe realize that Americans don't support gay marriage, don't really like partial birth abortion, for the most part support US "Imperialism", and don't like taxes. Oh wait thats not possible what am i saying, ppl are too dumb to make there own decisions cause in THIS election you guys didn't get your way (despite record setting propaganda machines on BOTH sides of the aisle)

[Supes]

Site proof of voter fraud in his reelection and what does the electoral college have to do with it? He won both the popular vote and that..

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I think the point is that you can't really cite proof - Vote Fraud

It's only one article of a very long list that took all of 2 minutes to find. The reality of the situation is that the system you have in place opens itself up to question because it is not open. Close the doors and shut everything away and of course people are going to say that the voting was rigged. It's really only a natural reaction.

Having said that it is absurd and you should not be questioning why your votes need to be kept secret and why the public cannot get access to the actual results. There are a lot of examples of vote fraud with the use of voting machines (worldwide) and the people running the major suppliers in the US are none to respectible and have some colourful records themselves.

I'm not an American, but from the encounters I've had with Americans the majority of those people are anti-Bush. Perhaps it's an apathy thing. Non-compulsory voting has resulted in not enough of the people that wantd a change things voting. I really don't know, but I do shudder to think that a majority of your population shares the same antiquated views that Bush spouts, because they are backward and they do reek of an unintelligent and ill-informed population.

[Renegade]

All of the things that are supposidly voter fraud aren't based on party, but based on overall election screwups. It's not like oh lets go to a Democratic district, close it and get out of there. Things prolly do go wrong here and there but they most likely all cancel each other out and even so aren't nuff to actually effect an election.

As for our population being unintelligent/ill-informed, prolly. But so is the population in every country so I won't shutter too hard

[civilian_number_two]

Perhaps you should wake up, and maybe realize that Americans don't support gay marriage, don't really like partial birth abortion, for the most part support US "Imperialism", and don't like taxes.

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Yep, 51% of American voters are bigots. 51% have narrow views on birth control. 51% believe that war is necessary if the man in the hat tells them so, and 51% are dumb enough to believe that any government will ever reduce taxation. If they hate tax so much, why did they elect the son of Read My Lips? Anyway, I don't hold with the "Americans are dumb" business. The Democrats also bombed the shit out of peopel and placed erroneous blame on Osama bin Scapegoat; they also discriminated against Gays; they paid lip service to the abortion movement while letting the private sector do all the heavy lifting; they promised to reduce taxes and didn't. I think these recent elections shw that you kids prefer being lied to by Republicans to being lied to by Democrats.