[Vwing]

Ok I was watching Episode II on HBO today, and it suddenly occurred to me. Why the hell does Naboo exist? Think about what it is. It is meant to show basically a beautiful world with beautiful architecture so as to show the height of peace and prosperity in the republic. It's headed by a Queen. IT'S FUCKING ALDERAAN!! Why didn't they just make Naboo Alderaan? Then, we care more in Episode IV when it's destroyed since it played so prominent a role in the lives of characters we care (or should care anyway) about. It also makes sense then that Leia is a princess, since her mother was the Queen! It's all so logical! How did they not see that Naboo is just Alderaan, and should have BEEN Alderaan in the prequels?

[Paladin]

Good point... no wait, scratch that, make it an excellent point.

And while we're at it, why didn't they show any relationship with Owen and Obi-Wan, this is needed to make the whole 'leave Luke with Owen and Beru on Tatooine' make a bloody lot more sense. Given the fact that Owen was in Episode II as a stupid plug and not any serious character, it'll leave many wondering just why the heck they accepted to adopt Luke and raise him, all while knowing full well that this might lead to their deaths.

And while we're on the subject, if Owen had known C3PO prior to meeting him again in Episode IV, why did he buy him? I won't go into any details since Chefelf already addressed it in his reasons to hate Episode I.

Yet another reason why George Lucas lost it.

[Chefelf]

Yeah, that's something I had thought of before. I guess I just forgot to put it in my reasons. Having Naboo be Alderaan would have made so much more sense in so many more ways.

It's the same reason he's constantly inventing new alien species instead of re-using the old ones. It would have made a lot more sense to have the Gungans be the Mon Calamari. Then you would get a good sense for why they were so active in the rebellion.

I guess it's just more fun to introduce new stupid planets and aliens and then have no explanation for why they aren't in the sequels at all.

Also, "Naboo" is a stupid sounding planet name. Alderaan: much better.

[barend]

It would have made a lot more sense to have the Gungans be the Mon Calamari. Then you would get a good sense for why they were so active in the rebellion.

plus they have a nicer home planet... a lot like saturn. you haven't seen anything untill you've seen the rings of Mon Calamari. yes, those Mon Calamari rings are something special.

[barend]

after the rebel alliance defeted the empire i belive they named one after chewbacca... it was called the 'Chewy Calamari ring!!!'

[CowboyCurtis]

I always thought that, too, and I would've used some of Lucas' rejected ideas from his early Star Wars script. I would've made Amidala a princess rather than this queen nonsense. Her father (which Lucas has a character called Kayos in the early script) would've been in control. Would've had the Trade Federation holding him hostage, and that's why the Jedi arrive. I also would've had the Trade Federation already taken over a few other worlds prior to this for the same reasons, making it legal in the senate.

I would've made Palpatine the Chancellor already. All of that nonsense to vote him in the first one was so unnecessary, and compressed the story of the Clone creation act into the first film as well, which would've moved the actual clone wars into the second episode, which is now only hinted at through the television cartoons.

Jar Jar would've been more like a capable, warrior-like Chewbacca character. We could still have put in an annoying smaller Jar-Jar character if you REALLY needed comic relief, but...

Also, I would've written Obi-Wan's role into what's now Qui-Gon's, and Qui-gon would've been the padawan. Anakin would've been the same age as Amidala. There would've been more Sith. None of this silly, "only two are there," garbage.

And, just for the record---The Jedi KNIGHTS would've been more like how Lucas had originally imagined them, equipped not only with their lightsaber, but also a laser pistol, and personal body shields. Very cool stuff. Instead, Lucas has them all dress up like Obi-Wan Kenobi's outfit in Ep. IV-VI. So special is Obi-Wan's outfit, that even Owen Lars wears one just like it!!

I think Lucas had two piles when he started. One had the "really cool" ideas and the other "not so cool, I really ought to throw it away" pile, and his stupid maid (or he himself when he was in a self-induced Cherry Coke haze) dumped the the cool pile into the garbage, so Lucas really had no choice but to go with the "not so cool" ideas.

[civilian_number_two]

And, just for the record---The Jedi KNIGHTS would've been more like how Lucas had originally imagined them, equipped not only with their lightsaber, but also a laser pistol, and personal body shields. Very cool stuff. Instead, Lucas has them all dress up like Obi-Wan Kenobi's outfit in Ep. IV-VI. So special is Obi-Wan's outfit, that even Owen Lars wears one just like it!!

That was a key thing that bugged me about TPM. When we see the Jedi, we're to believe, then, that these boring robes are their actual uniform? So when we see Ben later, hiding out on Tatooine, he's there "disguised" as Jedi knight?

It's all too much.

[Supes]

after the rebel alliance defeted the empire i belive they named one after chewbacca... it was called the 'Chewy Calamari ring!!!'

Just in case you are worried that your kudos have been passed over once agan barend I thought I should let you know that these two gems almost caused me to pass out as I stopped breathing from laughter.

[Despondent]

What about Dantooine? in SW we hear there's a rebel base there.

And about Tatooine, don't they pronounce it differently? I guess it's dialect, but Luke in EMPIRE seems to say "we'll meet you at the rendezvous point on tattoo (breath) Eeen"

And I suppose after JEDI and the tales told of heroes robotic, we'll eventually add an
Artooine

[CowboyCurtis]

Also, "Naboo" is a stupid sounding planet name. Alderaan: much better.

That's another reason why I think Lucas was replaced by a pod person after ESB. All of the stupid baby-like names. Na-BOO, Gungan, Padme, Amidala, Jar-Jar, Watto (isn't this taken from a song, which I just can't think of it's title nor the singers--gosh-blasted!!). Even Ann-NEE sounds so childish and so baby-ish, it makes me want to puke. There was no need to give him a nick-name. Anakin was just fine.

Alderaan, Tatooine, Bespin, Hoth, Dantooine... all sound so wonderfully and strong--almost British-like. I mean "Palpatine" Some thought went into that name. (This wasn't mentioned in the OT, but it was in the ANH novelisation). Sounds Roman.

Yeah, Lucas was probably just trying to be diverse with the new PT names, but it just doesn't work. He should've stuck to his formula, but it's hard to do that when you're grown from a large pea-pod.

This post has been edited by CowboyCurtis: 17 February 2004 - 12:12 AM

[Jordan]

Oh man. Everything about the planet sucked shit. Electing Queens? Naboo having their trade routes blocked off?

Whocares if the planet has its trade routes blocked off! It's a friggin planet, it should be self-dependent. Example: be able to house/feed at least 4 billion people. So what the hell is the trade feds blocking! Spice? Is the planet really cashing in off spice? We were never told.

I think a good ole 2 houses quarreling scenario would have been better than trade routes and federations.

Also the Senate could have been about 1/10 as big. This way the audience would not be overwhelmed to the point of no return. Lucas was more enamored with the physical appearence of the place than the acutal problem the senate needed to deal with.

"just make that fucker big, real big yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"

This post has been edited by Jordan: 17 February 2004 - 03:46 AM

[Despondent]

Electing Queens?

Yeah. a child to rule them.

"Amidala" - an anagram of Dalai Lama

[barend]

"George Lucas" an anagram for "complete and utter bastard!"

[young ones' joke]

[Despondent]

that, and a "Glucose Rage."

[Chefelf]

Wouldn't it just have been a lot cooler if the war and the conflict was between two different groups of Jedi (the Jedi and the Sith) rather than a super -boring political problem?

They could have simply been made to have two different sects of the Jedi order with two different views of how the force was to be used. This could have eventually branched out into a sort of civil war for control of the Republic. This is where the Sith raised an evil army of clones and the Republic used its regular non-clone army to fight them back.

With all of this going on there would have been some internal Jedi struggle and the obvious Anakin falling to the dark side.

No Trade Federation. No Battle Droids. No Gungans.

I dunno. That's how I always imagined it happening since I was a kid.