[georgelucas4greedo]

I just have one question for all you gushers out there, who think Lucas is a genius. What the hell was he thinking when he thought it would arouse emotion to tourture machines? If this doesnt prove that the guy cant write a script I dont know what will. I mean we shouldnt be surprised by the PT after crap like this in ROTJ.

[diligent_d]

Yeah. I've wondered that myself.

So basically he's saying that Gonks feel pain. Interesting. For higher-purpose droids, pain receptors might be something useful. But a Power Droid??

[Revan-47]

why dont you complain about the space worm in esb. a lot of things dont add up in that scene. serioulsy, there are so many nitpicks in every movie, all you are doing is convincing yourself that the movies are bad. why would you want to do that when you could enjoy them.

[Zatoichi]

yeah, but not agreeing on how one or two things in a single movie didn't add up is commonplace. Being able to make lists of Chefelf proportions is something else.

edit: Actually, I wonder if that could be done for many of my favorite films.

This post has been edited by Zatoichi: 19 October 2005 - 04:20 PM

[Despondent]

I'll accept the Gonk's pain as a "convention," something accepted to further the story or somesuch.

the Gonk's pain and Mr. Bill "Oh Noooo" kind of line was funny. Not in the "Ewoks are funny" kind of way, but in the beginnings of a slippery slope kind of funny; SW films are headed downward at a dramatic rate! NOOOOO!

[barend]

why dont you complain about the space worm in esb. a lot of things dont add up in that scene. serioulsy, there are so many nitpicks in every movie, all you are doing is convincing yourself that the movies are bad. why would you want to do that when you could enjoy them.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

like breathing in carbon monoxide. ... ... ...

[georgelucas4greedo]

The space worm furthers the story along though. You needed a dramatic reason for our heroes to get out of the cavern. Theoritically, a space worm could exist. Well maybe not but I care more about seeing the heroes of ESB narrowly avoid danger than wondering whether or not C3PO was gonna get his mechanical nuts electrocuted....

[Darth Player]

why dont you complain about the space worm in esb. a lot of things dont add up in that scene. serioulsy, there are so many nitpicks in every movie, all you are doing is convincing yourself that the movies are bad. why would you want to do that when you could enjoy them.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The Space Worm goes back to Joseph Campbell and myth even the bib;e when Jonah was in the whale's beast, not to mention literature with Moby Dick. Clever use of the unknown as we're focused on the Empire Vs Han and co, and they're enveloped in this thing, another larger element in the SW Universe. And like the Jonah/Whale tale, the heroes cannot escape their destiny, and are compelled to follow the course of events that leads Han to get frozen et al.

I'm surprised no mythic large element like this was used in the PT, maybe even the same Space Worm in a different context. Looks like GL has contempt for the OT the more I consider the PT's directionlessness.

The pain point is a good one thought because C-3P0 has the ability to shut himself off in ANH to conserve power and he doesn't appear to be in agony in losing an arm on Tattooine or being dismembered in ESB, and yet the Gonk droid and the 2-1B wannabe who get tortured display pain like humanoids. Lucas said in a Bill Moyers interview when ROTS came out that when he makes a rule, like having sound in space, he has to stick to it with the other parts of the story. Too bad he didn't follow his own observations/rules.

And as for nit picking the films instead of getting a lombotomy and supposedly enjoying them, why not enjoy the insights offered here instead of critiquing them? I know I do.

[Despondent]

I'm surprised no mythic large element like this was used in the PT,

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Surely you recall the droid factory?

[georgelucas4greedo]

So I did some research on droid torture on starwars databank. Apparently, you can attach "pain receptors" on droids so they would feel the robo equivalent of pain. And that bitchy droid EV99 was a "sadomasocist" who would mutilate her fellow robots. its a wonder why Jabba spends so much money on torturing droids and not enough on keeping those with central nervous systems from escaping his palace.

[Otal Nimrodi]

Could you send us the link? I have GOT to see this. And am too lazy to look on my own.

[Despondent]

TPM Annie: Goodby threepio. I'm *sorry* I never finished you with coverings or *pain receptors*....

[georgelucas4greedo]

Droid Torture

[Despondent]

I'll bet I know what her favorite pop song from the 80's was....

(although, ROTJ DID come out before that Nina song)

[diligent_d]

So Eve-Ninetynine was on Cloud City now??? Ridiculous. Did she know R5-D4 too?

That's why I don't go to the Databanks usually.