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While I think the changes made were a slap in the face to Anakin, Boba Fett and that dude in Hoth, I think Sebastian had it worse. He was replaced by Hayden Christensen... and for some reason, never aged. From what I can see, his form doesn't even exist in the movies. Jeremy's case is slightly worse for him than John's is for him, because he is a little bit more important. And while John is effected the least, doesn't mean it's not an insult regardless.
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Who was insulted the most by the DVD changes? You decide!
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 02:51 PM
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 04:03 PM
i dont think anyone should be insulted. regardless of how you feel the changes effected the movie, you have to realize that sebastian and bulloch are actors and were paid to play a part. they have already gotten more out of star wars then they ever dreamed they would when they signed on.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 04:31 PM
What's your point? As it stands, Sebastian, John and Jeremy aren't even a PART of Star Wars anymore.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 04:37 PM
I haven't watched the DVDs, and I do not plan to. They would be TOO MANY slaps in the face for me. *shakes head*
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 09:40 PM
Jeremy Bulloch without a doubt. Sebastian Shaw had no business being in ROTJ in the first place; it should have been David Prowse under that mask and why Lucas brought Shaw in for five minutes of work baffles me to this day.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 10:28 PM
David Prowse played a horribly disfigured Vader, not a clean, old man.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 11:04 PM
The man under the suit was meant to be deformed, twisted. I kind of picture him even having wires, tubes, and things connecting to his throat and the back of his head. I don't picture him with eyelids, either.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 11:19 PM
Why isn't Clive Revill on the insulted poll?
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I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an obi-wan to go.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:34 AM
Who is Clive Revill? Sorry, I'm not familiar with all the actors/voices.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 10:28 AM
QUOTE (StarWarsIsUs @ May 15 2005, 07:34 AM)
Who is Clive Revill? Sorry, I'm not familiar with all the actors/voices.
Clive Revill was the original Emperor in The Empire Strikes Back when Darth Vader kneels down and the big floating head appears and says to him in a calm, collected voice "There has been a great disturbance in the Force." Clive was pointlessly cut out of ESB's DVD and replaced with Ian McDiarmid.
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I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an obi-wan to go.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an obi-wan to go.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 10:33 AM
They had every right to bring back one true Emperor-magnificent Ian McDiarmid, Lord Aquaman!
Why don`t you like this change?
Why don`t you like this change?
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 10:57 AM
""Clive Revill was the original Emperor in The Empire Strikes Back when Darth Vader kneels down and the big floating head appears and says to him in a calm, collected voice "There has been a great disturbance in the Force." Clive was pointlessly cut out of ESB's DVD and replaced with Ian McDiarmid. ""
Ah, so that was the guys name. I heard that is was actually an old woman that played the ESB Emporer. Must be a rumor. Yeah, that would be pointless cutting him out. I think Clive looked just fine the way he was in the hologram.
Ah, so that was the guys name. I heard that is was actually an old woman that played the ESB Emporer. Must be a rumor. Yeah, that would be pointless cutting him out. I think Clive looked just fine the way he was in the hologram.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 02:23 PM
QUOTE (Lord Melkor @ May 15 2005, 08:33 AM)
They had every right to bring back one true Emperor-magnificent Ian McDiarmid, Lord Aquaman!
Why don`t you like this change?
Why don`t you like this change?
It was a change not needed. The only thing Lucas should have changed (fixed really) in the OT was special affects, and maybe adding deleted scenes. Changing dialgoue and actors was not needed. That said replacing the woman by Ian McDiarmid is not so much a bid deal, though I would have preffered more of his face to be covered, only his chin and mouth showing. However McDiarmids delivery of the lines are poor, and the dialouge change is what upsets the the most.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 05:22 PM
Revill isn't on the Poll because I went off of word of mouth, and never heard about this.
c_c Is it possible to edit a poll?
c_c Is it possible to edit a poll?
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 06:36 PM
Sebastian Shaw didn't do much after ROTJ. In fact i have seen no other of his films (most of which were before).
I'm supreised that Bulloch is returning in ep.3 as Captain Colton. He did too breif appearances in james bond films, but was best known for everyones favorite chater in the SW trilogy...
As for John Ratzenberger, he has it quite good... he (like Ford) is better known for other things. did the delete him from ESB?
I'm voting bulloch, because at least Shaw isn't around to be horrified by it...
but i do feel sorry for Shaws grandkids....
"my grandfather was anikan"
"no he isn't... i've got the DVDs"
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I'm supreised that Bulloch is returning in ep.3 as Captain Colton. He did too breif appearances in james bond films, but was best known for everyones favorite chater in the SW trilogy...
As for John Ratzenberger, he has it quite good... he (like Ford) is better known for other things. did the delete him from ESB?
I'm voting bulloch, because at least Shaw isn't around to be horrified by it...
but i do feel sorry for Shaws grandkids....
"my grandfather was anikan"
"no he isn't... i've got the DVDs"
"thanks mr.lucas. you've made all our chrismases come true."
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