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Anakin the slave? Or happy Kid? What's the deal?

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Posted 26 December 2003 - 03:01 PM

I just watched Starwars ep 1 again. And I found an entirely new reason as to why I hate this movie. (yes I do own the DVD)

Episode one depicts Anakin as a poor slave. A young boy on the harsh planet of tattooine under the black hand of slavery. Shimi Skywalker even goes on about " how this is no life for a young boy". So we are all made to believe that anakin had an unfortunate childhood.

Althougth he was a 'slave' it seemed he had an ok life with a job and a nice boss.

Actually Anakin's life was pretty damn good if you ask me. I would even go as far to say that his life was better then most peoples, hell it was better then mine is right now. He had the free time to build a droid and pod racer. His mother, shimi, seemed rather pleasent and in good health, not to mention the two of them lived in a house which looked no worse than Uncle Owens hole in the ground. Watto was a bit of a hard ass, but again no worse than any other boss. He let Anakin get off work early once too, Anakin was so happy he even proclaimed "yippie". Watto seemed alright, sure he forced the kid into podracing for money but...............anakin loves podracing! So there really is no problem here.


So here we have a Boy who is doing what he loves and what he is good at, a mother who looks healthy and is able to keep an orderly house hold.

Slave? I think not. While Lucas was writing the script he must have forgotten to add the qualities recognized with slavery, instead gave Anakin the life of a normal happy boy.
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 06:00 PM

I've got to agree with you. For slaves they had it pretty good.

They didn't seem so much like slaves as people with a hardass boss.
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 09:07 PM

seems watto took better care of anikan's mother than anikan's stepdad (who did what, free her from slavery? worthless man I've always thought.)

good point Jordan. I guess that redeems you for repeat-viewing wink.gif
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Post icon  Posted 27 December 2003 - 10:53 AM

wait a minute? they were both slaves to an ugly flying dude who owned an engineering parts store. anikan was good at fixing things, what did shmi do??? huh.gif

but yeah, they're better off then i am. i guess when you have as much money as GL your perspective is a little different. i consider myself a slave. :angry:

PS Jord. i love the fact that you own the DVD. just so you can have a reference guide to your hate. smile.gif
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Posted 27 December 2003 - 12:25 PM

(sheepishly raises hand)

I own the DVD for Episode I and Episode II. sad.gif

It is nice to have them as a reference.
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Posted 27 December 2003 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE (Jordan @ Dec 26 2003, 03:01 PM)
Slave? I think not. While Lucas was writing the script he must have forgotten to add the qualities recognized with slavery, instead gave Anakin the life of a normal happy boy.


This is a good point. I think if Lucas wanted to know what "slaves" look like he should have gone further than a tour of Skywalker Ranch.

Or, of course, he might have dispensed altogether with the slavery idea, since it's pretty stupid.
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Posted 27 December 2003 - 05:58 PM

was anikan happier prior to his becoming a padawan?
this is a cheap shot, but as a SW fan I certainly was. laugh.gif
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Posted 27 December 2003 - 11:31 PM

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was anikan happier prior to his becoming a padawan


I think he was much happier as a slave. Becoming a Jedi ruined his life. Maybe if the Jedi council let him visit his mom (or perhaps rescue her) then he would have become a good jedi.

I have a problem with incompleteness. The Starwars collection is something I must own. The last two movies were bad but still part of the collection. I hope that epsiodes I,II, and III* will get better with time.


* I'm assuming the worst.


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This is a good point. I think if Lucas wanted to know what "slaves" look like he should have gone further than a tour of Skywalker Ranch.


lol This could be the reason. His idea of "poor slave" has become perverted over the years due to extreme wealth and comfort. This reason makes the most sense to me.
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Posted 29 February 2004 - 02:23 PM

QUOTE (barend @ Dec 27 2003, 10:53 AM)
PS Jord. i love the fact that you own the DVD. just so you can have a reference guide to your hate.  smile.gif

Yippee!

folks in the states: you can make your own reference guide this evening as FOX airs the phantom menace, beginning at 6pm (CST)

recapture the disappointment. thrill to the sounds of a podrace. Cheer for Sebulba and gaze at the blue balls. If you can't go to the oscars, go up against them I suppose.

not that anyone WILL actually tape it (besides me) but there will be commercials to keep things moving. or, consider it a lenten act of suffering.
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Posted 29 February 2004 - 06:52 PM

no really, what the fuck did shmi do? she just cooked and cleaned for anikan!!!
she seemed like a house wife to a husband who didn't exist. I think the sand people were the only ones who got a decent days work out of her!!!
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Posted 29 February 2004 - 08:41 PM

Well, my tape screwed up. It waited till normal simpsons time to record, so that's a loss.

on the other hand, I needed to be ready to record when Mitch and Mickey sing at the oscars. (Good Luck Eugene and Catherine.) and good luck Peter Jackson too.
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Posted 01 March 2004 - 12:25 AM

11/11 sweeeeeeeet!!!
'bout time they showed some taste!!!
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Posted 02 March 2004 - 07:30 PM

When Anni wins the podrace, the two headed announcer says something like "that is some kind of human being!" does it bother anyone else when people are called humans in the star wars movies? (Not that any thinking fans go along with the suspension of disbelief anymore. And now I'm stuck thinking about the droid factory.) Damn You Lucas!
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Posted 23 March 2004 - 06:21 PM

I think Anakin should have been an orphan, or maybe part of a street gang. One of the Jedi should have spotted him, seen the how strong he was with the force and then try recruit him.

The whole mommy thing was a bore. Plus, Anakin going to the darkside would have made more sense this way.
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Posted 23 March 2004 - 09:24 PM

Good call.

Or:

Anikin could have been a full-grown adult.
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