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Modelling industry purge on anorexics Saturday, January 1 2005

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Posted 01 January 2005 - 03:13 PM

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Model purge on anorexics makes weight vital statistic
December 31, 2004

LEADING figures in Israel’s fashion industry, alarmed by the number of young women suffering from bulimia or anorexia, are supporting a move to ensure models have “normal”, healthy figures.

Officials and doctors in Israel’s Health Ministry are backing the “look good and stay alive” campaign, and the country’s youngest member of Parliament has tabled a Bill that would require all models to undergo health checks before entering the profession. They would have to take six-monthly “MoTs” to ensure that they were not underweight.

Israeli officials say that 10 per cent of girls between 14 and 17 have eating disorders. Many teenage girls idolise models and believe they must diet obsessively to have any hope of a career on the catwalk.

One of Israel’s most successful fashion photographers, Adi Barkan, stumbled on the problem two years ago when he returned to Tel Aviv after a career in London and New York. He found two of his models making themselves vomit to keep their weight down. But he discovered the true scale of the problem when a television company filmed him searching for new faces.

Of the 12,000 aspiring models he auditioned, Mr Barkan and the documentary makers found that 1,644 were so anorexic they should have been admitted to hospital, with many in the 5ft 8in range typically weighing just 5st 7lb to 6st 4lb.

Mr Barkan now runs a programme to help anorexics. All the women on his modelling agency’s books must have a body mass index (BMI) — a height-to-body fat ratio — of at least 19. Some of the most serious anorexics’ BMI is just 7, while many underweight teenagers are 13 or 14. “I began to wonder where all this misery was coming from,” said Mr Barkan. “I realised we as professional photographers, fashion designers and advertisers were at least partly responsible.”

To protect models and project a better image to young women, he approached leading fashion clothing chains and food manufacturers and persuaded them to sign up to a charter promising they will not use models with a BMI of less than 19 from next month. He also persuaded Inbal Gavrieli, the MP, to introduce legislation insisting all models undergo an examination by a Government nutritionist.

Those deemed healthy would get a licence while any who were too thin would be given nutritional advice and a two-month deadline to put on weight or be barred. The Government is considering whether to support the Bill.

A TV advertisement highlighting the problem is to be filmed next week showing four models, each thinner than the last but each wishing they weighed less. The last in the sequence, Hella Rubenstein, 29, is a former model who stands 5ft 8in but weighs 4st 6lb. Filming had to be postponed last week when she was taken to hospital with heart problems.

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Posted 01 January 2005 - 08:35 PM

i'd like to add....

until we have more tubby action heros and romantic leads to show the world that guys like me are socially acceptable to be attracted to, lets not let women feel TOO good about themselves...

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Posted 02 January 2005 - 02:07 AM

Is that 5 stone, 7 pounds?

"Drat and double drat! It's true what they say! The radio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!"

I'd just like to say that if you are so concerned about your image that you attempt to vomit to prevent weight gain, you deserve to die from malnutrition.

Barend - Yeah! Round is a shape too! So is flabby! But do you really want to be with someone who is concerned about what is "socially acceptable" or not? :-D

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Posted 02 January 2005 - 07:17 AM

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but i would still like to see a fat ugly bastard save the day!





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“I began to wonder where all this misery was coming from,” said Mr Barkan. “I realised we as professional photographers, fashion designers and advertisers were at least partly responsible.”


This "leading fashion photographer" had absolutely no idea that the industry gave women eating disorders?

Is he retarded?

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Posted 02 January 2005 - 10:13 AM

Don't get me wrong, I support the idea, but I dislike this bit:
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Those deemed healthy would get a licence while any who were too thin would be given nutritional advice and a two-month deadline to put on weight or be barred

I'm assuming 'too thin' refers to a BMI of less then 19(which they stated to be the minimum). Now, I have a BMI of 17-18. Always have. I don't do anything to keep it there, it's just how I am. Now, if I were given two months to build it up or get permanantly banned from my vocation, I would have to gorge myself, and it would not be good.

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Posted 03 January 2005 - 06:52 AM

QUOTE (barend @ Jan 1 2005, 08:35 PM)
i'd like to add....

until we have more tubby action heros and romantic leads to show the world that guys like me are socially acceptable to be attracted to, lets not let women feel TOO good about themselves...

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Posted 03 January 2005 - 11:08 AM

Just so we know for reference, what is the average BMI for men/women, anyone?
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Posted 03 January 2005 - 11:23 AM

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Posted 03 January 2005 - 11:51 AM

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Posted 03 January 2005 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE (Slade @ Jan 2 2005, 07:07 AM)
I'd just like to say that if you are so concerned about your image that you attempt to vomit to prevent weight gain, you deserve to die from malnutrition.



Let's not reduce a grey issue into black and white. I don't think anyone would deny that what is presented to us as "beautiful" and "worthy of love and attention" has had a lot to do with the levels of anorexia and bulimia being as high as they are. But let's not kid ourselves: if you starve yourself to death by not eating or by throwing up everything you eat, it's gone way beyond the desire to protect your image and well into the land of mental illness.


Eating disorders are scary, destructive and have a shockingly high recividism rate -- even if you are "cured" the chances of relapsing are far better than the odds of staying healthy. As far as the last part of what you said goes, well, I guess you're in luck. A lot of people with eating disorders DO die of malnutrition. There are people I know and who I care about who have lived under the threat of their hearts giving out, or their teeth falling out, or their systems failing, or their bodies just giving up after being starved down to nothing. And while it may be their fault, I don't think they deserve to die.
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Posted 03 January 2005 - 01:17 PM

Holy Christ. I missed that first time around. I should probably stop skipping over posts typed in lowercase.

Slade, you suck. It's not a matter of some vapid blonde twisting her hair around her finger and going, 'Gee, maybe if I stop eating, I'll stop getting fat!". People who have an eating disorder know that it's stupid. They know that they're doing something completely irrational and destructive and are slowly killing themselves. But the behaviour is compulsive, meaning that they literally can't stop themselves. No one makes a conscious decision to become anorexic or bullimic. Imagine having absolutely no control over your own mind - the emotions it provokes in you, or the actions it makes you perform - to the point where it becomes your enemy. That's what mental illness *is*. Otherwise it wouldn't be an illness.
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Posted 03 January 2005 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE (Rhubarb @ Jan 3 2005, 07:17 PM)
Slade, you suck.


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along with "look a three headed monkey" and "how appopriate you fight like a cow"

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Posted 03 January 2005 - 07:31 PM

I know there are psychological disorder. I was just being deliberately jaded for absurdity value on the one hand, and on the other being irritated by someone who would actually make a purely conscious effort like that.

I was remarking on the line "Many teenage girls idolise models and believe they must diet obsessively to have any hope of a career on the catwalk." which I read as someone thinking that they have to adhere to a sterotypical model of beauty in order to be happy with themselves and their career. And while that is deplorable to me, since I believe that one should take one's own ideas, gained through what passes for logic and reason within the human mind, over someone elses, it's sad that this would assist in causing an eating disorder. Which still makes me an asshole, I guess, thinking through fully.

Sorry, I didn't realize that it would be seen as making light on eating disorders. They are truely awful things to experience. I just meant to express my irritation at how absurd people can be that they feel that unless they fit some sort of perfect image that they can't be happy. And I think to myself, what a wonderful world...

At any rate, my apologies to those I offended. I am a moron, and deserve to wear the rock of shame. I'll just go now and walk through some glass.

Edit: Rhubarb... skipping over posts typed in lowercase? Are you trying to demean me by implying that I lack proper punctuation, and therefore must be stupid, or something like that? You will note that I tend to use proper sentences when I post on this message board, unless I'm using deliberate parody, or just miss some editing. I honestly have no idea what your first statement means.

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Posted 03 January 2005 - 09:35 PM

PEOPLE!!!
I think we're all missing the real issue here...

that "Modelling industry purge on anorexics" was an awsome thred title...

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 08:43 AM

Well, it was just a cut-down of the original title, really. I'm not convinced they're all about setting about the anorexic with fire and pitchfork, no matter how delightfully surreal a scene it might be.
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