[Hannibal]

If you bother to check boys, the last time I posted in this thread was November 28th. It says so right up there at the top.

Its funny how you guys are talking like I am the one going with millions of posts, Hofmarn ressurected this thread, not I.

Barend is going on now about how in some imaginary post I said all non-jews are scum.
Where is this post barend? I'm not even Jewish.

I thought exaggeration was the trait of nazis Hofmarn? How is it you, a self-avowed "defender of the people" have taken it into your idealogy?

November 28th: In that last post, I likened you to your hated enemy, Rush Limbaugh, it appears to be more true now than it ever was: from sophomoric web comics aimed at smearing me(like Rush's endless Clinton comedy sketches) (why is that guy still talking about Clinton?) to incessant exaggeration and whining about his political enemies, to practically making shit up whenever he can.

See the beginning of this thread where I paste from Thrawn's NAZI Website, before Thrawn even reared his ugly head. While your at it, why not read some of this thread, it might make for interesting thought.

Anyway, this whole thing is fascinating to watch. Hofmarn has posted more attacks on me in the last two days than I even posted at all about anything in the last 2 days.

Barend is literally making shit up, and use_the_force doesn't even realize how old this thread is and that I haven't posted in here since November.

Thrawn should be personable, he should be "gentlemanly" as you put it barend, should he not? He's a nazi.

Lenny Bruce and Bill Hicks come to my mind. They challenged everybody's beliefs, they offended everybody...they had ample contempt for fascists...they were not very charismatic...they were not exactly personable...but they did make people THINK...

So this is a defining moment. Mission:Accomplished

Your character is being defined whether you like it or not, based on the choices you make. For there are 30 or more or less people who visit this board everyday who are not registered users...they find it through search terms on google and check out the discussions...they are the ultimate judges of what goes on here, the detached few who are really the ones who think for themselves...and we'll never know what they think until they sign on like the few who have in the last few days...

Why are these people important?

Its what make threads like mine worth it to post. People will find new ideas, and new perspectives, their minds will be tweaked. Once they see all this, what WILL they be thinking now?

Once again, we'll never know, but the intelligent ones will see what is clearly to be seen and this interaction of Fascist, Communist, 13 year old, Joe-Six Pack from Austalia, or wherever the hell he's from, a few others and Crazy Hannibal...

Its gotta be a fascinating read...to see american liberal "Che Guevera" pop-commie turn into a bitter nazi sympathizer...and others embrace antisemitism because of their hatred of ONE single person...

Its done everyday ladies and gentlemen, on the American AM Radio talkshows...entire masses turned to fascism out of hatred for Richard Gere or something, because Sean Hannity doen't like him.

Keep watching. This really is a defining moment for this board.

This post has been edited by Hannibal: 29 March 2005 - 03:42 PM

[J m HofMarN]

I put it to both of you that until thrawn said it yesterday, Hannibal was not Jewish.

For goodness sake do you really hold it against me for assuming such? It would at least explain some of the constant ranting about nazi plots and whatnot. See how many times Hannibal has mentioned the word "jew" just to throw it up there. After a while you stop figuring its just a coincidence. I don't know maybe he just has a jewish fetish.

Fascism IMO is about giving unquestioned authority to a minority in power.

Yes, but unlike democracy or monarchy the fascist leadership is faced with providing a reason that they're in power. In democracy its because we voted for them, in monarchy its because god voted for them, in dictatorship its because they voted for themselves and will kill you if you dont shut up. But isn't this fascism? No. Fascism is markedly different from dictatorship because it involves patriotism. Iraq was not a fascist society, but the axis powers during WW2 were not the only ones.

My favorite example is Juan and Evita Peron. They were very little different than Hitler and Ava except that they didnt join in the war. But look at them. They're still beloved today to some extent. Eva got Juan out of prison just by telling people to do it. You don't see people being followers of Chester A Arthur today do you? The fascist ruler makes an indelible impression on people with the majesty of their presence. They have a direct power over the people, and don't need to use threats. Therefore a democracy can actually be a fascist state.

I don't want to bore you with statistics, but I think it's fucking hillarious that since this post has been "revived" it's been all thrawn and HoffMarN complaining about how much Hannibal is posting.

Hannibal, through drawing someone into a political debate, was trying to ruin yet another thread with his inane ranting about nazis. I simply drew that debate to this thread since that is what it's set aside for. Would you rather we start new threads every time he wants to cause trouble? Of course Hannibal is laying low. He has what every troll wants. We're all fighting among outselves and cursing and whatnot, which is what he's told us to do quite a few times, for instance, his famous call in the debate forums for us all to kill eachother.

And you guys call him polite; how remarkable.

You're missing the big picture. Yes, Thrawn may have said some things I wouldn't have, or any of us wouldnt have. But he was baited into it. If Hannibal was not here provoking things we never would have known that Thrawn was a neo-nazi. In fact we'd probably be using all this time discussing what C3P0's first job was with him. You're letting your ideas about Thrawn's political affiliation taint your view of the debate. Let me make it clear. I do not side with fascism. In fact I share most of Hannibal's views. However he goes about stating these views in a manner that is inappropriate and offensive to everyone. That's the problem.

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If you bother to check boys, the last time I posted in this thread was November 28th. It says so right up there at the top."

Yes. That's the bloody problem Hannibal. This thread was set aside for your lunacy and like a cat who gets tired of the smell of its litter box, you havnt been using it for a while and have just been crapping out stories about cloning, pissing off jews, and making black people mad all over the SW forums. I just happened to get so tired of it that I scooped this one back in where it belongs.

Its what make threads like mine worth it to post. People will find new ideas, and new perspectives, their minds will be tweaked. Once they see all this, what WILL they be thinking now?

NONE OF THIS SHIT IS NEW! IT WAS ALREADY OLD WHEN YOU STOLE IT FROM VARIOUS WEBSITES AND PASTED IT HERE! NO ONE IS THINKING ABOUT THIS. IT IS INSANE. NOONE BELIEVES THAT STARWARS WAS MADE MY NAZIS EXCEPT YOU. BLARGH!

Its gotta be a fascinating read...to see american liberal "Che Guevera" pop-commie turn into a bitter nazi sympathizer...and others embrace antisemitism because of their hatred of ONE single person...

I am not sympathizing with Thrawn. I am tolerating him just as he has tolerated everyone else on this board despite supposedly being the one who is a fascist here. And I havnt seen anyone embracing anti-semitism either. Are you even Jewish? If not who are these semites that we're being against? I don't see any! And the only reason Thrawn has been singled out as a neo-nazi is because of you. However most of us here still have the intellectual capability to ignore his political views and just talk with him like a human being. So once again it looks like you don't get your wish.

[J m HofMarN]

the most openly socialist guy on the board goes out of his way to DEFEND the guy supporting fascism, just so he can attack his chief rival for stuff he said sometime ago. This sacrifice of ideals in order to defeat personal ememies, by the way, is exactly how Stalin came into power.

When someone goes on a long rant claiming that Star Wars is all about communism I will do the same thing Thrawn did. That's why I defended him. You might have noticed that Thrawn was just fine with Xombie's comparison but Hannibal's long winded diatribe was what set him off.

Hofmarn has now ressurected my old star wars nazi post, in which I paste a segment from THRAWN's "STORMFRONT" nazi site (this was so many months ago) that nazis feel insulted that some Jews have suggested Star Wars contains Jewish themes. I think this is funny, now they're here on this board, and Hofmarn is defending fascists.

Yes, and from now on I'll reply to all your inanity here so that it dosnt muck up other threads. You've posted more nazi crap than Thrawn ever has without ever having a reason to do so. And yes, I'm defending Thrawn's right to say what he wants, even though I don't like what he's saying. I suppose that makes me a fascist then.

[barend]

I’m sorry I offended…
I called an Albanian a Jew. Oops sorry…

How could i make that mistake? Was it the Star of David avatar? Was it the overabundance of Nazi related paranoia? Was subject titles like "Now Padme pisses off the Jews" and "Gestapo Haul off Star Wars Fan"? Was the confusion from the barrage of topics that all spouted similar notions? Who can say...

If you'll look back you'll see i assumed Thrawn was not a nazi/facist/racist/whatever because he was nice to me...

Fuck, you know what. You’re right! I made an assumption...

I could do the research and put something together for you, to justify it... but why bother? I'm just a "Joe six pack from Australia" (another wonderful stereotype)...

geeze i made a mistake... well I guess that undermines everything I’ve ever said... right.

You know what hanaibal, you win... you insult everyone here, and they love you... well, they can have you. i think it's sad that anyone would buy into your crap...
I’m not going to argue with you anymore, because I’ve got more important things to worry about.

This "joe sixpack" will just have to be content with hosting a TV show that showcases independent film and music, writing socio-political music that attacks all the things that try to crush the human spirit, and working on short films that make people laugh.... and sitting on that silly IQ test that said i was a genius...

…Rather than aspire to be a self-contradicting, cut-and-paste 'brilliant' theorist who sees nothing but Nazi conspiracies in everything... and insults everyone on the basis that believes he is more intelligent than everyone else, condemning all who disagree, and declaring that everyone else opinion is without merit….

That’s cool…

See ya.

[J m HofMarN]

Wow, Barend, I had no idea that I wasnt the only poor ignorant soul who thought that. It's good to know there are at least two complete idiots like us in the world.

[Hannibal]

Goosestepping morons.

[Hannibal]

I make no apologies about the above post or my avatar.

[Jordan]

Fascism IMO is about giving unquestioned authority to a minority in power. The best supporters of fascism are quiet and obedient, like our friend thrawn. -civillian

I just had a picture rush through my mind.

The entire PT staff's undying "yes" to everything Lucas says.

Lucas pandering to a minority by making films for people who were not alive during the releases of the OT.


Could that be facism?

This post has been edited by Jordan: 29 March 2005 - 09:09 PM

[J m HofMarN]

Rightorooni Jordan. Fascism dosnt always look as ugly as Hitler does to us now. In fact it rarely ever does. That's the problem with fascism is that it's a pretty pretty form of government. It panders to peoples need to be controlled by a greater force than themselves. It also tends to be aesthetically appealing. Eva and Juan were good looking people, great speakers, and they dressed well. Same with Hitler. Same with Wilson. They also presented themselves as being almost superhuman.

As I pointed out, the US government in the fifties could be considered fascist, same with the regime of Evita and Juan Peron, which is what I consider the most idylic fascist government yet created. And yes, Lucas Film could be considered to be fascist.

This dosnt mean they're nazis or conspirators, but that is how things go sometimes. However George Lucas is not a government organization, so the comparison is a bit of a stretch since he's not really harming anyone.

This post has been edited by J m HofMarN: 29 March 2005 - 09:37 PM

[Jordan]

JM you need to watch the movie "THE CORPORATION"

You'd really get off on that. It's right up your ally. Corporations are fucking facists. This movie pretty much links every evil and wrong doing in the world to wealthy corporations.

It's a great film, made by Canadians too!

Two hours of really really well documented info on how corporations are certifiable as psychopaths. It puts Michael Moore's films to shame. Even though he is in it.

Back on topic

This post has been edited by Jordan: 29 March 2005 - 09:39 PM

[J m HofMarN]

When I get a chance I'll have to check it out. I've worked for large corporations and they're not fun at all.

[Madam Corvax]

I suppose talking about corporations is still better than discussion fasist ramifications of SW by instigation of our forum's troll. C'mon guys, go back to discussing romance!

Barend, if you are joe Six pack from Australia then I dread to think what kind of stereotype the troll is likely to devise for me. At least I am in a good (your) company as the person who finds no pleasure in talking (or noticing at all) the troll.

[thrawn]

Yes, how typical of a Jew, he'll rant and whine at how poor and persecuted he is, and that everyone is against him, and he'll do everything he can to bring everyone around him to their knees and beg for forgiveness and in return he'll make your life a living hell, when in actual fact their is nothing to be sorry about. You are a pest Hannibal and all you have done is piss people off like the Jew you are,


So my suggestion to you is get on the train take your Zionist ways with you and never come back!!!!!!!!

[thrawn]

You'd really get off on that. It's right up your ally. Corporations are fucking facists. This movie pretty much links every evil and wrong doing in the world to wealthy corporations.

No my friend theyre Capitalists, that’s what the whole system is all about CAPITAL=MONEY and they have fulfilled it to the maximum limit and they’ve done well for themselves, not so much to others.

This post has been edited by thrawn: 30 March 2005 - 05:39 AM

[J m HofMarN]

Madam Corvax- I'd actually like to see what he'd call you. That would remove any risk of me ever feeling sorry for him again... You're right though, this debate is best left to Thrawn and Hannibal.

I will say this to you though, Thrawn, I'm not sure if Hannibal is actually Jewish. He seems to be more of a Jewish impersonator. I don't know why anyone would want to do that, but I think it might be explained on that stormfront website...