[Madam Corvax]

I hate this title for one particular reason. I have seen TPM only once, AOTC several times, and still from watching the films I have only a vague idea of what "the Sith" is. It is because even though I consider myself a sort of a fan, I am not "geeky" enough to buy all crappy SW books and read them all in order to find out who the Sith are. So, will people wo are not SW fans and do not read novels realise what is "the Sit"h?

In OT by the third episode everyone knew what a Jedi is, therefore the title had enough pull and significance. Here, I do not think it means anything for most people.

I thought Lucas knew better, but it seems to me he is following the footsteps of Matrix films, where the third film made much less money that the first and second. I suppose most people, (just like me) were not interested enough to watch the third instalment. And Lucas also seems to be doing everything he could to get people disinterested. Hence the stupid, meaningless title.

[Helena]

I hate this title for one particular reason. I have seen TPM only once, AOTC several times, and still from watching the films I have only a vague idea of what "the Sith" is. It is because even though  I consider myself a sort of a fan, I am not "geeky" enough to buy all crappy SW books and read them all in order to find out who the Sith are. So, will people wo are not SW fans and do not read novels realise what is "the Sit"h?

Play Knights of the Old Republic. Seriously. It fills in a lot of background on both the Jedi and the Sith, and it's also an incredible game.

[Chefelf]

Play Knights of the Old Republic. Seriously. It fills in a lot of background on both the Jedi and the Sith, and it's also an incredible game.

Yup. If it were left up to the movies you would have no concept of what the Sith are. It's very cryptic... not explained at all.

KOTOR builds a nice back story of the Sith, but it's ruined by the prequels.

[civilian_number_two]

Compare this to the OT

A new hope. There's a hope, it's new, its name is Luke. Any questions?

The empire strikes back. There's an empire and it is striking back.

Return of the Jedi. There's a Jedi, he's returning. The end.

Now is that so hard?

The first film was caled STAR WARS, and it had no episode title. If it had had one, like, in a real series, it would have been called THE DEATH STAR. No point in burndening it with this after-the-fact nonsense about Luke being "a new hope" for the flailing Jedi; that just makes no sense. Why would someone want to give that away n the title, when viewers generally enjoy finding out the story as it goes along?

THE EMPIRE STRIKE BACK is a silly title. Great movie, but the title is not like the title of an episode in a series, but rather like the title of a cheesy B movie. It's a title of the SON OF KONG or RETURN OF THE CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON variety.

RETURN OF THE JEDI is a great title. Lucas had meant for it to be called REVENGE OF THE JEDI, and later claimed that that title had been a ruse. Whatever; he's an amazing liar, like the guy caught in bed with another woman who says "it's not what it looks like." Anyway, I'm glad Star Wars fans brow-beat Lucas into changing the title.

As for the prequel titles, they are all bad. REVENGE OF THE SITH is not intrinsically bad, however; it's just bad in that "reloaded/rvolutions" kind of way. It's a title that is meant to sound like another title, to try to borrow some of its significance. WTF?

[Helena]

THE EMPIRE STRIKE BACK is a silly title.  Great movie, but the title is not like the title of an episode in a series, but rather like the title of a cheesy B movie.  It's a title of the SON OF KONG or RETURN OF THE CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON variety.

Actually, I agree about The Empire Strikes Back - it's a pretty dire title. But I feel exactly the same way about Revenge of the Sith - it sounds like a B-grade horror movie. 'The Sith, Part II: This Time It's Personal.' 'Revenge of the Killer Bikini Vampire Sith.'

[Mike Mac from NYU]

"Revenge of the Sith"

.....is a horrible title... I'll tell you why!


1. It's unoriginal. It's just a continuation of the ripping and recycling of ideas from the previous Star Wars trilogy.

2. Revenge of the Sith..........nice 'cept..............what REVENGE????.....exactly when has it been detailed that the Sith are out for revenge against the Jedi....we are never told if the Sith have any personal motivation against the Jedi.....revenge for what..........'Darth Maul's death????? "Revenge of the Jedi' made sense because the Jedi were taking vengeance against the Emperor having wiped them out. REVENGE OF THE SITH makes no sense.

3. Lucas is one hell of a salesman and marketer. This title is just like those rumors about Episode II being dark, just a way to draw you guys in to seeing it. 'A sucker born every minute"

[Despondent]

Revenge of the Nerds was taken already.

Didn't one of Darth M's only speaking lines say something like "as last we shall have our revenge?"

I'm not asking folks to believe this line would be memorable and prophetic. I don't know, and I'm caring less and less.

[barend]

I wonder if when i get to the box office it will suddenly be changed to RETURN OF THE SITH.

De Ja Vous (sp)

???


asshole.

[Slade]

Lets see if I can remember anything from KOTOR (I never finished with my character, who was neutral leaning towards good, but had a nasty habit of collecting bounties on people's heads)... The Jedi preach that to become a Master, you have to remove yourself from all emotion. The Sith did not, and over the years the two schools of thought eventually got so pissed off at each other that they split apart. But the Sith were led by some of those wonderfully violent conquistadors, and in their worlds were tought to embrace anger as power, and be ruthless and hate Jedi and stuff. It was something sorta like that... But nothing to need revenge over. They went around blowing up worlds they didn't like over the whims of the "powerful Sith Lords." If anything, all of the innocent need some revenge.

But weren't the Clones the good guys in AOTC? I couldn't stand to watch more than two minutes of Anikin's acting, so I dunno about it at all.

If I were in that universe and able to use the Force, I'd have to start my own faction. Screw the Jedi and the Sith... I shall be the first... Umbra... or something...

[J m HofMarN]

The sith SHOULD be avenging that the Jedi whiped all of them out in the great hyper space war and the remaining sith went into hiding and only two ever emerged.

This could have been a cool way to divulge some of the history of star wars and telling us something, ya know, USEFUL might well have made Qui Gon less of a nothing character. I mean he's an old Jedi master, they're practically made of useful tidbits and helpful revelations with a small amount of force thrown in.

The sith would never seek to avenge one another because they'd kill a sith just as soon as the Jedi would. The lives of other sith, what pissed them of is that the Jedi denied them power.

Of course we don't learn anything about this at all.

The idea of the OT was: Hey, the sith are evil and they took over the republic.

That was well explained and proven.

The idea of the PT is that the sith wanted to take over the republic to avenge... something. And especially in this film I doubt that they'll explain that.

[barend]

Maybe It's revenge for providing them with an ally called Annie.

[Helena]

KOTOR is set 4000 years before the movies; at that time there were a lot of Sith around as well as Jedi. I haven't read any of the books, but I think there was supposed to have been another war about 1000 years before the rise of the Empire, where the Jedi pretty much wiped out the Sith altogether. That is presumably what the Sith should be 'avenging' - but you can bet your life that it will either barely be mentioned in Ep III, or not at all.

[Despondent]

Where do the present-day (PT) sith come from? How did Palpatine get dark powers? His force lightning kicks ass, but if he's already mastered the dark side that makes it even more unbelievable that No one senses TPM within.

on that sw web page, they had an icon of Vader with Anikan's head. I guess that's what "before the helmet" refers to.

[Jen]

If I were in that universe and able to use the Force, I'd have to start my own faction. Screw the Jedi and the Sith... I shall be the first... Umbra... or something...

What you should be is the first Umbro, and start a dynasty devoted to the wearing of silky checkered soccer shorts ...