[Helena]

You don't have to make up stuff.

I respectfully disagree. To take just one example, all the crap about Palpatine 'guiding' Anakin. The only evidence we have of this is one line in AotC, which explains absolutely nothing - why the hell would the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic be involved with the training of a Jedi Padawan? Doesn't he have other things to do with his time - like, you know, governing the Republic? And what kind of 'guidance' could he give Anakin anyway? It's a classic example of Lucas's approach to storytelling - he wants us to believe that Anakin and Palpatine have some kind of relationship, but rather than actually showing us this he just states it in a throwaway line, leaving us to guess at how it could possibly have come about.

[Sagacity]

The Force ghost pic...

Please tell me somebody Photoshopped that!

[barend]

helena: exactly...

sagacity: frayed knot....

[use the force]

You don't have to make up stuff.

I respectfully disagree. To take just one example, all the crap about Palpatine 'guiding' Anakin. The only evidence we have of this is one line in AotC, which explains absolutely nothing - why the hell would the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic be involved with the training of a Jedi Padawan? Doesn't he have other things to do with his time - like, you know, governing the Republic? And what kind of 'guidance' could he give Anakin anyway? It's a classic example of Lucas's approach to storytelling - he wants us to believe that Anakin and Palpatine have some kind of relationship, but rather than actually showing us this he just states it in a throwaway line, leaving us to guess at how it could possibly have come about.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Do you want a whole movie in between Episode 1 and 2 about Anakin spending time with palps during breaks in his training. "ahh young skywalker, we shall be watching your career with great intrest."



And sagacity- about the pic, its not a force ghost its a hologram. and it looks pretty friggin cool and realistic to me.

[Sagacity]

Which begs the question: why do this?

[barend]

why is a hologram being projected of franky forehead in a seat that is the room... as aposed to a hologram of him and the seat he would actually be sitting on...

that's even worse...

but he gets his head chopped off i'm told...
a fate more fitting for Larry longneck

[use the force]

  Which begs the question: why do this?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Because he can't be there in person because he is off on other worlds fighting colne war battles.

[Sagacity]

That's not what I meant. "Why do this" as in why make this decision to not follow what they did holographically speaking in AOTC. Or TPM, for that matter? Is this another "I do this because I can" thing?

[barend]

so the seat he's actually sitting on is projection proof. so they had to project him on an existing seat?

can i just say...

the fact that we're even having this argument brings up a really good point...

ghosts and holograms look the same...

this would make it fairly easy to play practical jokes on people, and by the same token, make alot of people skeptical...

[Despondent]

I've ruined it. I read some of the info out there about this and that, what happens here and (sigh,) yep. I can see it being relevant to the plot. (if you want to call it that.)

Now, then. Is that what you wanted to hear?

[use the force]

I've ruined it. I read some of the info out there about this and that, what happens here and (sigh,) yep. I can see it being relevant to the plot. (if you want to call it that.)

Now, then. Is that what you wanted to hear?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

YEs, now crawl on all fours and worship to your GOD LUCAS

[Despondent]

Hey Use,

Now why would I want to do that; so we can see eye-to-eye?

[Helena]

Do you want a whole movie in between Episode 1 and 2 about Anakin spending time with palps during breaks in his training. "ahh young skywalker, we shall be watching your career with great intrest."

No, but if it's really that important a plot point then I expect to see some actual evidence of it - especially since, as I pointed out, it makes no sense. Why would Anakin be spending time with Palpatine? Does the guy regularly invite random Jedi over for tea-parties or something? We're not even given any idea of what kind of 'guidance' Palpatine could have given him. Just one short scene of the two together could have gone a long way towards rectifying this, though it wouldn't make the idea of a politician training Jedi any less inane.

[use the force]

Helena-


No, but if it's really that important a plot point then I expect to see some actual evidence of it - especially since, as I pointed out, it makes no sense. Why would Anakin be spending time with Palpatine? Does the guy regularly invite random Jedi over for tea-parties or something? We're not even given any idea of what kind of 'guidance' Palpatine could have given him. Just one short scene of the two together could have gone a long way towards rectifying this, though it wouldn't make the idea of a politician training Jedi any less inane.

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The chancellor regularly consults with jedi during his reign to ask them for advice. What is so hard to believe that a Chancellor is trying to get close to a certain jedi because he know he is the "chosen one." Thats his whole plan, get close to him and then turn him.

[littlejerryseinfeld]

The chancellor regularly consults with jedi during his reign to ask them for advice. What is so hard to believe that a Chancellor is trying to get close to a certain jedi because he know he is the "chosen one." Thats his whole plan, get close to him and then turn him.

now who's 'making stuff up'? don't you find it ridiculous that the relationship between anakin and palpatine HAS GOTTEN ABSOLUTELY NO SCREEN TIME?

the whole point of these prequels was to show HOW anakin succumbed to the dark side... and in 2 movies, we've seen no evidence, other than the throwaway line in AOTC, that anakin/palpatine ever had ANY interaction...

how 'bout showing their relationship, instead of showing the origin story of BOBA FETT? i mean, which is more important to the overall story of star wars? the birth of darth vader, or why some insignificant bounty hunter has a chip on his shoulder?