[artoo1121]

Hey you guys, I don't know if someone else mentioned this in a different thread, and if they did I'm sorry.
Anyway, I was reading EW this week and they had a little blurb about the OT coming out on DVD. They said the same thing, that is was going to be the special edition, but they also said that Lucas was going to rename "A New Hope" so that it would make more sense with the prequels and whatnot. Sorry I don't have the exact quote, I don't have the EW with me. Has anyone heard anything to confirm or deny this?

[Vwing]

WTF?!! You must have read it wrong, because that's just a new low. What's he gonna rename it, The Shadowy Glimmer? Check it again, that can't be right.

[artoo1121]

from Entertainment Weekly

"The four disc Star Wars DVD set will comprise the 1997 Special Edition versions (now on VHS), and will rename the original 1977 Star Wars:Episode IV-A New Hope. After all, the latest films are prequels."
-Noah Robischon

After all of the stupid things Lucas has done, it kinda makes sense. Of course, I was hesitant about the whole thing in the first place, but if he renames the first movie there's no way in hell I'm going to buy it. He tampered with it enough. I'll keep stockpiling my VHS collection.

[Vwing]

Oh I know what it means, the guy's just an idiot. Originally, the 1977 Star Wars was just STAR WARS, no Episode IV: A New Hope. This guy obviously isn't aware that it already HAS been renamed Episode IV: A New Hope in subsequent video and movie releases, so it fits into continuity of the prequels. I believe that's what he meant.

[artoo1121]

Well, we can all hope that he's an idiot. But if you look at it from the opposite angle, that he never knew it was ever just "Star Wars" and had always thought it was "A New Hope", then it is bad news. Now I'm just confused. It was an unfortunate wording choice, and you can never be too sure of when people are just being idiots.
I guess I won't make any more judgments on the matter until I get more information.

Okay, the exact quote goes like this-
"...and will rename ''Star Wars: Episode IV -- A New Hope.''"

I left out the quote marks the first time, I didn't even think about it. It seems to me, though, if he was saying what you thought he was, Vwing, he would have said "...and will rename "Star Wars:Episode IV"--"A New Hope."", with the two titles separated with separate quote marks. I actually have no idea though, that's just what I would have done. I know it's getting a little messy now, though, so I'll just leave it alone. I am way too confused now to do anything.

This post has been edited by artoo1121: 17 February 2004 - 06:19 PM

[Vwing]

LoL yea its all just speculation at this point anyway. Hopefully he's wrong, but like you said we should just wait and see, and hope.

[barend]

if they do like the alien quadrilogy (a good set despite it's raping of the english language), and make the Star Whores DVD box set with viewing options so that you can choose on each disc whether to watch special editions or original theatrical versions, I won't complain.

but we know that's not what's going to happen. how dare he dictate to us how to watch something that has been out for over 20 years. IT'S PAST THE TINKERING STAGE!!! IT'S TOO LATE FOR A RECALL!!!

<<< :angry: NO MORE STAR WARS 12" MEGA-MIXES !!! :angry: >>>

This post has been edited by barend: 17 February 2004 - 08:12 PM

[Despondent]

That's the good thing about working in oils. they take a while to dry, so you can do a painting for a class or an exhibition, in a style people will enjoy. then once you have a ribbon or a good grade and you get depressed or depraved or feel ignored, you can push the paint around and try to sell it again as something new. Hope someone took a picture of the award winning version.

[civilian_number_two]

Re the new title, I think Vwing has it right. It sounds like the announcement was sloppily transcribed from the press release. And there's nothign inacurate about it; it just isn't news. STAR WARS has always been the full title of that Academy-Award-Nominated film; even the rerelease in 1997 didn't bother to change the name, despite having the "Episode IV" nonsense in the opening text crawl. So now all they're saying is that the film will officially be called "STAR WARS EPISODE IV: A NEW HOPE." And I say they may as well. Because it sure isn't STAR WARS.

Regarding the "extra technological tweaking and cut scenes," I'm sure they mean the stuff they did to make the Special Editions in 1997. That's what's reported everywhere I look. This reporter is just being sloppy with his use of the word "extra." It's old news now, even if it was "extra" in 1997, 20 years after the pre-tampered film was up for Best Picture.

Should go without saying I won't buy it. I prefer my sloppy DVDs pirated from my laserdiscs. NO special crap, but the "New Hope" text crawl is still there.

[barend]

Should go without saying I won't buy it. I prefer my sloppy DVDs pirated from my laserdiscs. NO special crap, but the "New Hope" text crawl is still there.

how good's the quality of those, then?

[civilian_number_two]

Should go without saying I won't buy it.  I prefer my sloppy DVDs pirated from my laserdiscs.  NO special crap, but the "New Hope" text crawl is still there.

how good's the quality of those, then?

I don't have DVD Stdio Pro; I have iDVD. So while they look pretty good (on my trinitron they're as good as the laserdisc), they only carry an hour per disc. So the annoying thing is that the three movies are slightly more than two hours long each. So each film has two breaks in it, and spans three discs, corresponding to the three sides on the original laserdiscs.

Since I don't mind the breaks, I don't mind. All the same, one day I'll drop the $1500 on DVD Studio Pro, and make nice one-sided layered discs able to hold the whole 132 minutes of JEDI (even though it sucks, it's the longest in the series). Not that I'd buy the program just to transfer STAR WARS. I'd, like, do other stuff with it. There's just a good chance that I do *that* before anything else!

Something else I mean to do one day: transfer STAR WARS to DVD, but without the sound, and then add the complete score from the CD. Most of that music gets faded out in the movie, but keeps going on the CD. And it's really good; I'd like to hear it without all the dialogue and sound effects. I think STAR WARS, more than the other two, would make a great silent film.

[JamesEightBitStar]

I'm not really a Star Wars newbie, but I've only seen the original "A New Hope" about 2 or 3 times when I was like 6 or 7 ( 10 years ago ) . I haven't seen anything but the new version since. So what's with the whole "Greedo shooting first" thing. I've heard it a few times, but I'm not sure what it's referring to.

Btw, I do know who Greedo is.

In the Special Editions, just before Han shoots Greedo, there's a sparkle off to the side of Han's head. This is supposed to be Greedo's shot. It's poorly-done, if you ask me.

[Paladin]

In the Special Editions, just before Han shoots Greedo, there's a sparkle off to the side of Han's head. This is supposed to be Greedo's shot. It's poorly-done, if you ask me.

Poorly done is hardly a way to describe it. Crappy is more like it.

Just how can somebody miss at that distance? Even the clumsest, drunkest shot in the world could hit someone when he's at arms length!