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Silent Hill: Homecoming The Impending Massacre

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 01:27 PM

So yahtz was able to get an import of the game and is gonna review it this wednessday, according to the end of the last zp. I think he will verbally rape this one. Now I enjoyed the game immensely, although admittedly it was my first SH game. Here are a few of the things I think he will harp on. Oh, and if you don't want spoilers I suggest you stop reading this thread, beginning with the period at the end of this sentence.

1) It takes some things from the movie adaptation, such as the cultist's garb and pyramid head's appearance. Yahtz has bashed the movie before; therefore he will bash the game.
2) The actual inclusion of ph is basically worthless. He is never fought and is just in there because the developers knew he was a fan fav.
3) The puzzles were ridiculously easy.
4) The plot was predictable to an extent.
5) There were enough shots of josh running away from alex to make any sensible person just leave the kid behind. He obviously didn't wanna be saved.

These things didn't really bother me because I had no expectations for the game and no standard to compare it to. Hardcore fans have bashed the game. Just wondering if any of you guys had any thoughts on this.
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 06:26 PM

I'm pretty sure PH is in the other Silent Hill games. I myself have only played the first one and shat my pants. I had a pirated version so it was all black and white, but nevertheless awesome. I still can't believe its banned here. Fuck. And yeah Yahtz. will probably tear it to shreds but that doesn't stop it being fun in anyone elses opinion. Certain people have certain likes and I don't think Yahtzee can force people into not liking stuff (not saying that he's trying to or anything).
EDIT: oh my god i just realised how much i sounded like someone's mother just then. bah

But wait, is the storyline about some dude who lost his son in Silent hill? Chyeah, totally original. Also, for the puzzles, there should be some difficulty setting that makes them harder or easier and stuff. Oh and what are the weapons like?

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 08:28 PM

i actually have a copy of homecoming. i'm a huge fan of the silent hill series my initial reaction was that i hated it. about 3/4 in though i started to enjoy it. it doesn't feel really silent hill-esque, which could be a good thing, i don't know. i was hella glad that the game take a resident evil direction with the combat. the combat was fucking tough, i kept getting my ass handed to me. any one who says the combat system is too easy is a freak.
gameplay wise i think it's a vast improvement, but the story is probably one of the worst in the series which is sad.
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 08:31 PM

PH appeared in at least SH2 if memory serves me well.

You know, I never really played Silent Hill much...guess I should...
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 09:37 PM

Play the first three and then stop. This is the only way you will be satisfied with the series. That's what I did, and now I laugh at all the people who purchased the last few.

To be fair, I never played the last few, but I never really met anybody who did and thought they were anywhere near as good as the first three.

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 09:50 PM

@Maggot4Life:
I enjoyed it enough to want to play through it a few more times, and when yahtz destroys the game it will not affect how I feel about it. As far as storyline goes, alex (protagonist) comes back from the military after having nightmares about his little brother to check on him. Little does he know the town he left behind has succumbed to the evil of silent hill...
Weapons are alright. Your main melee weapons are a knife, a steel pipe, and an axe (or upgrades of those weapons). Firearms are a pistol, a shotgun, and a rifle with their respective upgrades as well. Combat is well done, although slightly repetitive and unfair at times. As for more difficult puzzles, there is a higher difficulty setting that I havenít played through yet, but I doubt the puzzles are affected so much as enemy strength and item scarcity.

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I wouldn't know if the game didn't feel silent hill-ish b/c I havenít played any other sh games, so this obviously didn't bother me. I felt like the plot was alright, but mediocre for a series that allegedly prides itself on great stories. It was a tad predictable, no? Also, I thought pyramid head was a manifestation of James' guilt, and thus would not be relevant to any other games. Although as I said this is my first dabble in the series.
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 10:36 PM

SPOILER alert
i still feel really weird about pyramid head's inclusion. that's james' demon, reusing him just seems lazy and pointless. at least origins came up with their own variation on pyramid head.
some of the plot points bothered me. the whole police station section felt like a cheesy american horror film. but there was a few things i didn't predict. i figured that alex's brother was dead, and i never anticipate multiple plot twists so i wasn't really paying much attention to anything else.
i do respect the game for feeling like a real survival horror game though, it's one of the last, so many games are now being called survival horror that i'm just getting cynical(going on a tangent). i just got dead space and that's too much like resident evil 4. it's a good game it just pisses me off that it's put in that genre. but then again maybe i have my own definition of survival horror.
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 11:42 PM

Yeah ph was completely unnecessary. The only reason they could have included him that I can think of is because the fan's love him. On my next play through I'm gonna scour the place for notes on him and hopefully double helix tried to cover their bases at least a bit, otherwise that's a huge strike. And by the way, *SPOILER* if you thought the police station was bad, the final level was basically hostel ripped off. That was the biggest issue imo; I thought the police station wasn't too bad comparatively. *END SPOILER*
On another note I'm gonna get dead space pretty quick, along with the new guitar hero and left 4 dead. Do you prefer dead space or shh saturnine?

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 03:28 AM

I've skipped the spoilers so I don't really know the plot and all, but Pyramid head exists as an actual part of Silent Hill.
SPOILERS???
He punishes those who secretly feel the need to be punished, like James. Deep down he felt so guilty about killing his wife that he needed Pyramid Head to torment him during his ordeal to be able to come to terms with and remember what he'd done, and when he'd done that the Pyramid Heads became weak and killed themselves.
Besides, the image of Pyramid head is a reference to the painting in the museum, of the executioners of long ago, in Silent Hill. I think he could just be actually part of the town.
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Other than that, I haven't played it so I can't comment, but yeah, they start to decline after SH3. Silent Hill Origins is a fairly good attempt, and is kind of scary, but it's just not the same really.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 07:44 AM

SPOILERS
i've never really seen hostel, but i can see what you're talking about. how lame is it that curtis didn't actually harm elle with that circular saw? he spent waaay too long just scaring her that it stopped feeling like she was in immediate danger. it kind of made my rescue of her seem not that important. i mean, at least have her lose a couple fingers or just skim her arm with it or something. i'm not for torture scenes but if you're going to have one you should make them more convincing.
dead space is pretty fun though i actually think the plot is a bit more cliche than silent hill: homecoming, but it's nowhere near as ridiculous as re4, it kind of seems like a crossbreed between re4 and doom 3. dead space is easier for me than shh, but i still prefer silent hill because, despite my grievances, i'm pretty biased towards the series.
as for pyramid head, i read something that his look was manifested from james' knowledge of silent hill folklore or something, so i've kind of gone with that. i'm not sure how genuine that piece of info is though.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:41 AM

*SPOILERS* Yeah I'm almost tempted to see if Curtis would do anything if left alone for a while, I was really into the game at that point and was kinda rushing to save elle. Oh and which ending did you get? Apparently in one of them they turn alex into a pyramid head. WTF? *END SPOILERS* Anyways, I'll see what I think of Dead Space when I get it in a week or so. We're all agreed that yahtz is gonna rip this one to shreds, right?

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 03:43 PM

I reached ZP saturation point a while ago and I like them too much to keep watching when I'm not enjoying them anymore.

Nothing against Yahtzee, I'd just seen too many ZPs.

But, if Yahtzee is reviewing the new Silent Hill game, then this review will be the first ZP I've watched in a while. He promised to "eat his own ass" if it didn't suck, which is a promising way to start any project.

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 04:33 PM

*crosses fingers* That would make a good episode.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 06:24 PM

QUOTE (aggiecouch @ Oct 20 2008, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're all agreed that yahtz is gonna rip this one to shreds, right?


oh most definately
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Posted 21 October 2008 - 03:03 AM

"I'm pretty sure PH is in the other Silent Hill games."

Prior to Homecoming, he was only seen in SH2, which has led a lot of people to believe that he was a specific creation for the character of that particular game, and should not be reused. In most cases with the monsters of Silent Hill, this is true. Most of them do not, and could not, appear to different people. But Pyramid Head, as was revealed in SH3, is not just some monster created to do naughty things with the mannequins and chase James around with a giant butter knife. He's a deity of the cult in Silent Hill, and was not constructed for any one person.

That said, I still firmly believe that Pyramid Head's appearance in both the movie and in Homecoming was a decision made by a bunch of suits who realized that they could double their profits just by giving him two or three minutes of face time.

"i was hella glad that the game take a resident evil direction with the combat."

Nothing about it seeming like a Resident Evil game is a good thing. As far as combat goes, the point of Silent Hill games has always been to avoid fighting where it is possible, mainly because you were always playing a character that didn't have much fighting experience. That was part of the atmosphere that made the series what it was.

"Play the first three and then stop. This is the only way you will be satisfied with the series."

Agreed. Although, I can't say The Room was all that terrible. I used to think it was, before Origins and, inevitably, Homecoming. Now I feel sort of nostalgic for Walter and that emotionless tool, Henry.

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