[Deepsycher]

Not just censoring but also “sensoring” is going on with search engines.

Either Companies are direct to the point in providing privacy information or apart from places like China it appears, "Google insists that everyone gets a fair chance to information, including governments."

Could it be that some governments want to “sensor” peoples activities to successfully censor them in court? But in this case China chooses to censor without the sensors or senses.

This post has been edited by Deepsycher: 18 February 2006 - 02:35 PM

[Gobbler]

As far as I know, Google runs a "don't be evil" policy, which includes not giving any information about the users or the usage statistics to governments or other parties.

[Deepsycher]

Sorry did not specify what was meant by "they" as to governments.

I read that Google runs a fair policy, giving people a choice to share using their Desktop sharing tool which was in reference to recent privacy issues. Also the resistance in that Google believes everyone should get the same access to information with privacy in place, still unsure as that cannot be the same for places like China who censor information.

This post has been edited by Deepsycher: 18 February 2006 - 02:43 PM

[barend]

this is the reason I don't think communism would work: the people who would implement it. Does everyone have to be equally ignorant too?

it's funny... capitolism (and therefore 'democracy') fails for exactly the same reason.

every political system is essentially a small group of people controlling the information and power of freedom over it's people...

communists hide the truth from the people that they get to boss around.
in democracy they make reality shows around the things they can't be bothered to lie about anymore.

at least the chinesse goverment hide the horrific truth from its people, not make it entertainment for its slaves...

funniest home videos: lets laugh at kids getting injured
american idol: lets be entertained by the fact that talented and creative songwriters are over looked to make way for talentless nobody's...
big brother: lets watch some inbreds at their most common
jerry springer: lets watch society hang out its dirty laundry
the biggest looser: lets take humiliate fat people and elimentate thos who need the most help

we're feedin on our own waste and far too engrossed in it to ask any questions...

personally i think we're too quick to judge other systems...

at least there people are forced into social thralldom... we choose it with open arms.

[Dr Lecter]

every political system is essentially a small group of people controlling the information and power of freedom over it's people...

communists hide the truth from the people that they get to boss around.

Jesus, I don't even know where to begin attacking these statements... Why should a communist ever have to hide the truth from the people, since under communism everyone has equal rights, including the right to know the truth. I don't know how many times I have to fucking say this, so please let this be the last:

Stalin... NOT communist
The Chinese Communist Party... NOT communist
Pretty much everyone single government that ever refered to themselves as communist... NOT communist

Anyone that has ever called them even Socialist is insulting to the Labour movement. They defy the Communist Manifesto in more ways than I dare to mention, including murdering political rivals and abolishing freedom of speech, no communist party should ever need to do this because it should always being doing what the people want, so why should it ever be dangered to do such things?

I hate how Communism is simply generalised as "Everyone is equal", but that doesn't even stratch the surface of what it means, most of what people say against communism is propaganda designed to install that belief that it will not work.

[Sailor Abbey]

The Chinese Communist Party... NOT communist

Then why is it called the Chinese Communist Party?

[Gobbler]

Why? It's the same reason why people who live in China and google for "communism" will find a lot of information that somehow do not correspond with the idea Dr. Lecter might have of it.

[Deepsycher]

Oh so communism not only applies to privileges as it use to but also knowledge as well?
I can see that for knowledge, but unsure as it seems biased for the privileged.
Oh and another thing, how can people be given a fair chance if most have no chance of living after their courses or competitions?

This post has been edited by Deepsycher: 20 February 2006 - 03:58 PM

[Dr Lecter]

I have no idea what you mean, but communism's founding idea is choosing merit, ie, ability not money or corrupt means of promotion. Thus anyone should be able to reach anywhere within the nation, so long as they have the ability to do so.

[Deepsycher]

I mean the suicide as to the culture?
Reading that families influence their children to commit suicide if they fail academically, also some people in businesses. Can not believe it as I have never seen it, but still curious.

[barend]

Jesus, I don't even know where to begin attacking these statements... Why should a communist ever have to hide the truth from the people, since under communism everyone has equal rights, including the right to know the truth.

my point is that; at least the communists feel the need to lie to its people... they're still trying to convince everyone that the world is a happy place. our governments passses laws that allow businessess to evict you from your home because some supermarket needs a car park.

communism: "you follow us because we're nice people... er... yes what a nice place we have.. nothing going on here..."
democracy: "fuck off florida you should have pulled harder! no, THIS is the kind of music that is 'popular'! arlight, yes, i know you live here, but AT&T need a new cell tower, get out! etc. etc."

[Deepsycher]

Sounds to me in the style of "Conmunism" and "Democrazy."
Is there a name for a society that is combined from both?

[barend]

capitolpunishmentism?



they're all totalatarians at the end of the day...

[Slade]

Your mom's a totalitarian in bed!

Seriously, for a moment, it's impossible to censor the Internet. So many networks, nothing consolidated... The closest they'll ever get is restricting access to things in certain areas, but the content will still be there.

[Deepsycher]

Yes, couldn't it be "sensored" to sue in order to make money, leading to slowly censoring it?