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Posted 20 August 2008 - 10:24 AM

Y'know, cause I'm currently in germany and it opens today here.

I've never liked the modern batman, or any of the movies thus far . . . however, it is continually my hope that they will decide to take batman in the direction of his, (quite short), early film noir style days. (As opposed to the late film noir days, which happened only a few years ago).

I wondering if anyone on this forum is the same way, hoping for a different batman than the screen shows, because he's gone through quite a few phases. And because this forum tends to have above it's average share of psychotics. Afterall, we're here to discusss Yahtzee.

Okay, I've mentioned two distinct film noir stages, then there's also a supernatural detective stage where he fought such villains as the clayman and Vympir, (who, against all expectations, was not a vampire . . .?), also that whole golden age thing with Superman and never fighting crime, (but instead turning into monkies and trapping his beloved in glass balls), also that dick tracy reminiscient stage where the penguin was a mafia rum smuggler of all things, (and batman stocked a pistol in his utility belt. Most. Sensible. Thing. Ever.), and those of you who actually liked the majority of batman comics can probably list a whole bunch more.

How do you picture the ideal Batman? why?
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Posted 20 August 2008 - 10:36 AM



Why? So creepy.

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 11:25 AM

Exactly as he is in the Dark Knight, but with less of the 'angry' voice.
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Posted 20 August 2008 - 01:07 PM

Batboy! From the tabloids! Friggin' awesome! laugh.gif

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 01:15 PM

Whenever I see batboy I remember this

First time I saw that I was maybe five and I about wet myself...

As far as Dark Knight, I'd rate it about 39 orgasms of awesomeness. Although I do dislike batty's new voice, my endless and completely heterosexual man love for Albert, Comissioner Gordon, and Morgan Freeman (not Lucius, just Morgan Freeman) makes up for it.
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Posted 20 August 2008 - 05:43 PM

My thoughts after seeing the movie:

Excellent movie, not the batman I wanted to see, but definitely a step in the right direction, I wanna see a second movie with the same people behind it, (just a different actor for Wayne/Batman, perhaps).

I was kinda dissapointed that they killed off two-face so quickly, though. Wrapped up the ending nicely though.
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Posted 20 August 2008 - 08:42 PM

I think Batman is such an appealing superhero because he's not 'super', he's just a man. When he was ridiculously paired with Superman, the alien from Krypton who was almost invincible and could fly and had laser eyes, he was made impotent and pathetic. He was hyped up instead as 'the world's greatest detective mind'. That's his essence I think, like what you said about Dick Tracy and Rorschach and that. There's a whole lot more compelling drama when there is investigating going on, rather than "They expect me to reach for my cloak for another potion, but instead I'll use my moustache for strength..."

Look at Watchmen. Save Dr Manhatten, no superpowers in there, and it's considered a classic.

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 01:01 AM

Superpowers don't make a good story, but your post seems to imply that they detract from it, which they don't.

The best Batman stories aren't about criminals, or investigation, or fighting crime. They're not about his gadgets. They're about Batman. They're about what makes him him.

The same goes for any superhero. A good superhero story...

Well, what makes it good?

I'm not entirely sure. I'd have to say the same thing that makes any other story good.

But a lack of superpowers isn't one of the ingredients.

Edit: If it makes sense for a character not to have them, or even for the whole setting not to have them, that's all good. I'm not saying you need superpowers. But that doesn't stop stories from being damn good, superpowers or not.

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 04:55 AM

I think Batman and Superman are both ok in their own environments, it's just stupid to combine the two. 'Cos yeah, what do you need Batman for if there's an omnipotent, muscle-brained alien around who wears his underpants outside his trousers?
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Posted 22 August 2008 - 01:34 AM

Not being a fan of the attempts at making batman movies i enjoyed The Dark Knight alot. It has all the elements and genres put in it so anyone who despises the batman franchise would like it. (i think) Although it'd be great to see a new toon batman movie quite like the old ones instead of George Clooney and Arnold Blacknigger (no offence to black guys) dancing over a giant fridge.
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Posted 22 August 2008 - 03:17 AM

When celebrities and people who don't really read the comics or know anything at all about batman thing about batman, they will say something to the tune of "i think batman is a cool guy. he lacks superpowers and doesnt afraid of anything."
When I think about batman, I think of PLOT ARMOR and PREP TIME, I guess.

Come to think of it, I really mostly enjoy the batman comics because of the OTHER characters, like Robin, Alfred, and Roxy, that whore that was all "Hey Batman if you want I'll give you a freebie" and he said "sorry too busy fighting crime" because he didn't want to say "no thanks I don't need herpe-

ANYWAY, yeah, I heard the movie Joker and Two Face: featuring Batman was good, etc
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Posted 22 August 2008 - 05:47 AM

QUOTE (David-kyo @ Aug 21 2008, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Batman and Superman are both ok in their own environments, it's just stupid to combine the two. 'Cos yeah, what do you need Batman for if there's an omnipotent, muscle-brained alien around who wears his underpants outside his trousers?


Because. Superman's ABLE to do almost anything. But Batman's WILLING to.

They have this sort of light-and-dark vibe.

Superman's really just a Kansas farmboy. Batman knows the way that people work. He's the world's greatest detective, after all.

Again, I could elaborate some more... But I don't think you want me to.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 08:48 AM

Aaron Eckhart was seriously understated in this movie. Both he and Ledger outshone Bale by quite a bit. Eckhart needs more roles.
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 05:24 AM

Eckhart and Ledger did a pretty good job.

The movie overall was A-okay. The dialog however was irritating sometimes. Though, it did fit its rating which was a 12+.
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:05 AM

"Okay, okay . . . I'm going to show you all a magic trick . . . I'll, I'll . . . make this pencil . . . disappear . . ."

(they did a nice job of keeping it at it's rating. You don't need blood, gore, or gruesome death to make a dark movie.)
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