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This is another in a long line pointless perceived inconsistancies. Most bashers would even have to call out this inconsistancy. The switch that Anakin uses in TPM is hanging on C-3P0 via wires, much like a light switch hangs from a wall via wires until someone mounts it to the wall. Is it not at all possible that the switch that is hanging on the side of C-3P0 neck will be routed around his neck and mounted on the back of his neck when his coverings are put on by Shmi?

do it.

I just started this thread because I believe Lucas did have a vision, however, he also made it up as he went along. I'm not trying to convince anyone that the new or the old movies are some work of art. I just think many fans are not paying attention to the visuals.

Notice at the beginning of The Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon uses the Jedi mind trick on Boss Nass three times. The first two times it works but on the third time when Qui-Gon says, "Your gods demand his life belong belong to me," it doen't work on Boss Nass. I believe the Gungan city scene along with the scene where Jar Jar declares he owes Qui-Gon a life debt is telling the audience that gods exist in the story of Star Wars. These scenes are at the beginning of the first episode, just like at the beginning of Indiana Jones And The Temple which is the first episode of
the Indy trilogy, we are told by the Shaman that the Hindu God guided Indiana to the village. And then we see Indiana never went to Pankot Palace for fortune and glory like he believed, he went there to free the children.
"You're a slave?"
"I' m a person and my name is Anakin."

The thing is I never put much thought in these movies when they came out because I just really didn't care too much. I have only recently been talking to other Star Wars fans on the net. I didn't really realize that so many people are so upset about these new Star Wars movies, and this isn't the first time I found a basher complaining about Boba Fett in Attack Of The Clones. See you only think that Lucas put Boba in the movie because of all the Fett fanboys out there. The truth is Boba is there for a couple reasons other than to please the Fett fanboys.

Boba is there to show that if you're raised by a murderous bounty hunter, that you'll grow up and be one too, because you weren't taught any different. But enough with the philosophical crap.

The next reason Boba is there is because, and I'll need you to open your mind for minute here, of what took place in The Empire Strikes Back. Notice in The Empire Strikes Back as soon as Boba starts tracking Han and Leia, then Luke has the vision of his friends suffer. Notice as soon as Yoda tells Obi-Wan to get Jango, then Anakin has the vision of his mother suffer. These characters aren't having visions because they're so powerful, they're having visions because something is guiding them to their destinies with these visions. See cloning people to be preprogrammed slaves is a crime and the Jedi should have known better and put a stop to the cloning but instead they really don't care and even become part of the crime. That's why Lucas put images of clone babies and children in the movie. You know, it's supposed to stir your emotions for what is right and wrong.

See Boba/Jango are there when Anakin has the vision that will lead the Chosen One to take his first steps into the dark and Boba/Jango are there when Luke has the vision that will lead the Chosen One to take his first steps back to the light.
Notice how Vader doesn't kill Admiral Piett, well that's because he's coming back to the light and of course when he kills the Sand People he's falling into the darkness.

[QUOTE]DP:Its not so much hate as it is with disappointment, especially since Lucas and all spent every day of the making of each PT movie with a "this is gonna be the greatest!" and it wasn't three times in a row.

Cosmic Underwear: What many fans aren't understanding is that Lucas never made the PT to one up the OT. The truth is that the only thing better in the PT are the lightsaber battles. Here is a quote that Lucas made in 1982 and for those you who don't know that' one year before E6 was released:
Source: STARLOG Magazine #48, July 1982

"The first Trilogy will not be as much of an action adventure kind of thing. Maybe we'll make it have some humor, but right now it's much more humorless than this one...a little more Machiavellian - it's all plotting - more of a mystery."


DP:And dad drinks because I did bad in school and mom gets beatings from him because she can't get the cleaning and the cooking done perfectly. And since human beings are in effect flawed and everything they make is flawed by extension, then its Ok to rape, murder, and loot.

CU: Well actually that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is Anakin's turn was the will of what ever is guiding these charaters. See the people are corrupt and they have to be taught a lesson by the higher power of the Star Wars universe. See the Jedi were already indifferent to suffering along with the people of the Republic that's why Anakin was born into bondage in the first place. The Jedi should of never made a pact with the devil first before Anakin did. See when you look at those images of clone babies and clone children, you're supposed to say to yourself, "That's screwed up." But most fans just want to see cool explosions and that's algood, however, you're supposed to make the connection that cloning sentient beings to be what essentially amounts to a slave army is wrong and the Jedi should of known that it was wrong to go down this path.
This is from Salvatore's E2 novel:
The callousness of it all struck Obi-Wan profoundly. Units. Final product. These were living beings they were talking about. Living, breathing, and thinking. To create clones for such a singular purpose, under such control, even stealing half their childhood for effeciency, assualted his sense of right and wrong, and the fact that a Jedi Master had begun all of this was almost too much to digest.

DP: ??? Vader's ship was made different so you could tell it apart easily in the Battle of Yavin, thank the storyboard artist and modelmakers. Same reason that in Westerns the villian usually wore black with a black horse to ride around on.

CM: They could of just made it a different color with different wings to show what ship is Vader's, but they also added two more engines and made the body larger. So this is to show that Vader's ship has long range capabilities because it was established by Obi-Wan dialogue earlier in the movie that the regular TIE's are short range fighters.

DP: A dirty floor? Maybe it was filthy because palpatine pulled the cleaning droids away so they could be in the secret tower to rebuild Vader and add his body armor. Plus, Anakin going on a killing spree in the Jedi Temple did leave a number of scuff marks.....

CU: The dirty floor is symbolic of corruption, and the floor was dirty thirty minutes into the movie, about an hour later Anakin goes on the killing spree.

DP: If the Jedi mediated conflicts and preserved peace and justice in the galaxy for millennia, it doesn't fit really. Obi Wan'sspeech in TPM about the Gungans and the Naboo forming a symbionic relationship of mutual dependence shows that even a Padiwan learner knows about such subelties, and Qui Gon's insistence on taking Jar Jar along despite Obi Wan's admonition of jar Jar being "another useless lifeform" also reinforces the notion that the Jedi are respectful to life.

CU: The Jedi don't know that they have become corrupt, just like Palpatine doesn't know he's corrupt. Now are the Jedi as corrupt as Palpatine. Well Palpatine telling Anakin to kill those younglings is pretty corrupt, but what about the clones? Wasn't half their life stolen from them? The Jedi didn't seem to mind that. The Jedi didn't seem to mind leading them into battles where many of them would die. Battles that the clones had nothing to do with. Why are Jedi taking children from their parents? Why are Jedi training children to be warriors? Isn't the choice of becoming a warrior to be left up to the individual? Luke wasn't taken and made a warrior. No, he made a conscious choice to become one, and in the end he makes all the right moves. So it kind of throws out the theory of taking a Force sensitive child from their parents is in the best interest of everyone.

"I have felt him my master."
"Strange that I have not."

DP: Nor would he has palpatine by that time is content with the unlimiyed power he's attained so he's drunk on it. Vader was getting some satisfaction in stomping out the Empire before crossing paths with Luke made him remember being a potential father, who he was, what he lost, and the hope he could carve out a new life with Luke and his present state as Vader and implement his dream of peace throughout the galaxy, the naive dream he had before taking a really big bad turn.

No, you're going too deep with this simple dialogue. This dialogue is very simple to interpret. Palpatine cannot sense Luke for same reason that the Jedi couldn't sense Palptine. The Force was in darkness in EI and it only grows darker in E2 and E3 Anakin was created to bring balance to the Force, it's a prophecy handed down to the Jedi. So does it not stand to reason that if the Force was balanced 9 years before Anakin, then there would be no Anakin, because he was created for one reason. To bring balance. So if the Force is balanced then Anakin would of never been created. So with this in mind, the Force must be unbalanced before Qui-Gon finds Anakin. So what exactly does balance mean? I don't really know but I think it has to do with the philosophy that there will always be evil but the strong have to protect the weak from the evil. Enter the Rebel Alliance who fight the evil, not with huge armies and vast resources but really only with faith in what they're fighting for. Freedom for all, like the freedom of children born into bondage.
"The Force?"
"It' s an energy field created by all living things."
The Jedi cannot sense Palptine because the Force is in darkness or unbalanced, and the Jedi do not draw their power from the dark.
Palpatine cannot sense Luke because the Force is in the light or balanced, and the Sith do not draw their power from the light.

Now I know this reply was long but there is no easy way to explain all this but this is from Stover's E3 novel and it shows how Obi-Wan hasn't felt the full power of the light since he was a child:
Somehow, mysteriously, the cloud that has darkened the Force for near to a decade and a half has lightened around him now, and he finds within himself the limpid clarity he recalls from his schooldays at the Jedi Temple, when the Force was pure, and clean, and perfect. It is as though the darkness has withdrawn, to return to him the full power of the light, if only for the moment: he does not know why, but he is incapable of even wondering. In the Force, he is beyound questions.

Notice that it appears that something is manipulating the Force itself, something that Obi-Wan cannot explain.
Now I know none of what Obi-Wan is feeling is talked about in the movie but notice how powerful Obi-Wan is. When Anakin and Obi-Wan crash land on The Invisible Hand, notice how Obi-Wan flies out of the cockpit while Anakin just kind of jumps out.

"I have felt him my master."
"Strange that I have not."

Palpatine is losing his ability to use the Force because he draws his power from the darkness but the Force is no longer in the dark because the people have stopped being afraid, they now care for one another (i.e. Han and Lando), and they fight for each other.

Another Lucas quote:
Source: Vanity Fair Febuary 2005
"The intereting thing about Star Wars--and I didn't ever really push this very, because it's not really that important--but there's a lot going on ther that most people haven't come to grips with yet. But when they do, they will find it's a much more intricately made clock than most people would imagine."

The one thing that people don't really see when they watch Star Wars is that what the characters are saying isn't really how it is. What I mean is that you have to look back at how the story played out and make your own conclusion on which character was right and which one was wrong. See when most people watch E5 they think that Luke made the wrong choice by going to Cloud City because Yoda and Obi-Wan tell him he's making the wrong choice, but Yoda and Obi-Wan were wrong. Luke made the choice he was supposed to make, he made the choice that the higher power wanted him to make. By going to Cloud City, Luke does save his friends. Well R2 does anyway, but more importantly Luke saves Captain Piett.

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I want you to notice how Episode III is the only episode that has dream or vision sequences. Kind of out of place for a Star Wars episode right. Well the dream and the vision sequence is to show you what Leia saw when she had visions and dreams of Padme. "Just images really. Feelings." Notice how Padme says, "there is good in him." Notice how when Luke tells Leia that he must confront Vader, Leia freaks out and tells him to just run, but when Luke says, "there is good in him," then Leia calms down because she has heard this before. She heard it in a dream or vision she had of Padme.
Something greater than the mortal characters is guiding them to their destinies.
These characters aren't having visions of the future because the characters are so powerful and can see the future when ever they want to. They're having visions because something is allowing the mortal characters to see these visions because these mortal characters are all part of a greater plan. What that something is? I don't really know and I don't think G.L. will ever tell us. But I suspect that Star Wars gods are guiding the characters to their destinies but you're never told that because only the primitive characters believe in gods, and most of the story is from the point of view of the Jedi. And the Force is just what Obi-Wan said it was, "an energy field created by all living things," and it has fallen into darkness because of the corruption of people.