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  1. In Topic: If Lucas rewrote the prequels, would you watch it?

    Posted 27 May 2005

    QUOTE (Dartholomew @ May 26 2005, 06:58 PM)
    The ubiquitous dissatisfaction with the prequel trilogy is evident.  If Lucas were to redo the movies, would anyone give him another chance???  Maybe you can post what you would want changed.  Maybe this has been done before but I claim Newbie immunity.......... whistling.gif


    If Lucas did it, no. If someone else with some actual talent came along and overhauled it like they did with the new Battlestar Galactica, I definately would.
  2. In Topic: WORST MOMENT (spoiler)

    Posted 25 May 2005

    QUOTE (Madam Corvax @ May 24 2005, 10:58 PM)
    It occured to me on repeated viewing. What happens to Anakin is for me unbelievable. I can buy tht he is so worried about Padme that he is willing to turn to the dark side, however lame that might be. Ok, so e does, and then right away he asks Palpy

    - so can you save her?

    What P. answers is like well, not yet, but if he combine forces we might be able to do it. And Anakin buys it! Does not say, wait a moment, dude, but you said you could.

    Ok, let's say he is at this point gullible enough to accept this lame promise. He is turned to Vader,and when he asks where is Padme, P. says you killed her. If I were Anakin, at this point I would kill Palpy. The guy made false promises and indirectly caused Padme's death, and yet Vader serves him for the next 20 years. I mean, WTF? Why? Can any of you give me a half-believable explanation?


    I fully agree... Anakin's conversion to the dark side was weak at best, and completely unconvincing. The whole scenario is really pretty stuipd. The Jedi Order had all along been treating Anakin like crap, despite the fact that he managed to save their collective butts several times. Something I mentioned in a previous thread is that the story setup a conflict of interest with Anakin, forcing him to choose between the Jedi Order or his old friend and mentor. I think if I were Anakin, I would tell both sides to blow it out their pants and strike out on my own.

    Besides, when exactly did Anakin turn from being the sickenly sweet kid on Tatooine into the arrogant, whiney asshole in the last two films?

    Here is an idea for an alternate story:

    The Jedi Counsel discovers that Anakin and Padme are married (like they couldn't have possibly picked up on the clues from the last film wacko.gif ), and force Anakin to make a choice between the Order (aka the Jedi Code) and Padme. Torn between love and duty, Anakin of course chooses his wife.

    Anakin, feeling betrayed (after all, how many times has he saved the butts of those ingrates?), runs to his friend and mentor Palpatine for help and advice. Palpatine, seeing the opportunity, sooths and supports Anakin, but in the process plants the seeds of revenge and animosity towards the Jedi Order. Palpatine offers to keep him on as his personal protector, at least until things can be "worked out" with the Jedi (an empty promise). At some point shortly after, the Jedi discover that Palpatine is indeed a Sith Lord, and make a move against Palpatine to remove him from office. Palpatine plays it off as being the innocent victim of a viscious plot to have him killed and overthrow the Republic. Anakin witnesses this, and becomes convinced that the Jedi Counsel has become corrupted and turned to evil. At that point Anakin intervenes on the part of Palpatine. SNAP! The trap has been sprung. Anakin has now started down the path to the dark side.

    Needless to say, Palpatine continues to be very coy and subtle, not wanting to reveal who he is until Anakin is fully in his grasp.

    Palpatine makes Anakin out to be a great hero of the Republic. He then plays off of Anakin's pride and arrogance, and offers him almost unlimited power and glory; and a chance to fulfill his destiny as "the chosen one" by bringing order and justice to the Republic. He makes a case similar to the one Padme made that the Republic no longer works as it is, that there is too much corruption and evil present as evidenced by the "treacherous" Jedi Order, and suggests (using the Force to read Anakin's thoughts) that only a wise and benevolent ruler can fix the problem. That wise and benevolent ruler of course is Palpatine. All Anakin has to do to make this utopian vision happen is pledge allegience to Palpatine, and become his student/protoge'. Furthermore, Anakin can still remain married to Padme. Anakin of course accepts, perhaps not fully realizing that he is now a pawn of the soon-to-be Emperor.

    Anakin, egged on by Palpatine, feels that he has "unfinished business" with the Jedi Counsel. He then proceeds to destroy the Jedi Temple, fully (but mistakenly) thinking that he is doing the right thing by eliminating their "evil" from the galaxy and bringing balance to the force. Since Anakin is at the core still good and honorable, he chooses NOT kill off the younglings, instead driving them off. Most of the younglings are later rounded up by Imperial troops and then killed by order of the Emperor.

    At some point later Obi Wan and Padme, who still love Anakin, confront him in a last ditch effort to bring him back from the dark side, and show Anakin the truth about Palpatine. Obi Wan still senses the good in him. Anakin who still see the Jedi as evil, think that both Obi Wan and Padme have betrayed him. Anakin in his rage mortally wounds Padme. A fight then ensues between Anakin and Obi Wan. Obi Wan defeats Anakin, and leaves him for dead.

    Later, Anakin is rescued and rebuilt into Vader. When Vader revives, the only emotions he can feel are anger and hatred. He blames Obi Wan for what happened to him and his wife, and swears to destroy him and the remaining Jedi at any cost. Anakin has now fully converted over to the dark side.

    Baaah! It still sounds like a bad plot out of a comic book. Still, it would make more sense than the way GL decided to execute the plot.

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