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  1. Incest and Child Abuse in Star Wars

    Posted 11 Feb 2005

    Chef Jeff fails to point out that there are clearly some very mature subject matter in Star Wars. First of all, incest is a very central theme.

    You can't tell me that Luke and Leia aren't hot for each other in the first two movies. The actual tag line of Star Wars initially was "A Boy, A Girl, and A Galaxy." It wasn't "A Brother, A Sister, and A Galaxy."

    Also, there were a couple of moments of sexual tension between Luke and Leia. Princess Leia kisses Luke "For Luke" before they swing over the bridge on the Deathstar. Then Luke gets all pissy with Han when they are flying away from the Deathstar when Han suggests the possibility of a romantic relaitionship.

    The Empire Strikes Back is even worse. Despite the terrible dialogue in Episodes I and II, there is about a 30 second stretch that may be the worst dialogue in movie history. The scene where Han says "She expressed her true feelings for me," and Leia proceeds to call him "Laserbrain", "Scruffy Looking NerfHerder," etc. is just painful.

    At the end though, Leia forcefully grabs Luke and gives him a passionate kiss. This isn't the kiss a sister gives a brother. Luke then puts his hands behind his head and acts like he is the man. I am quite certain that he ran and beat off later.

    I think it would have been more dramatic if when Luke was told about Leia being his sister, he started vomiting and they played the "Crying Game" theme (even though the Crying Game was years away from being released), similar to Ace Ventura's reaction when he found out that the Police Chief was a man.

    In addition to the obvious incest that was going on, child abuse was a big issue. Darth Vader tortured Princess Leia in Episode IV. That's child abuse in my book, as he is her father.

    He cut his own son's hand off for God's sake. I know Luke was over 18, but if not you can be sure that child services would not have awarded Vader/Anakin custody of his child with that type of behavior.

    Anyway, I wanted to point out that, although Star Wars appears to be a children's series, there is some pretty mature subject matter explored in the films.
  2. Darth Vader and Emeperor:Bad Salesmen

    Posted 11 Feb 2005

    I have to point out that I believe that Darth Vader and the Emperor did a seriously bad job of trying to convert Luke to the Dark Side. Example, they would use lines like "give in to your hate," and other lines that weren't really that eniticing.

    If I were Darth Vader, I would have used a slightly different approach. First of all, I would have pointed out to Luke that Leia was his sister. I would have explained to him that he's only seen about 3 chicks in his galaxy, and two of them were relatives (Aunt Beru, Princess Leia). The 3rd was the old chick with Admiral Akhbar in the Return of the Jedi Battle scene.

    My approach would have been this:

    Join the Empire, and we can hook you up with hot chicks. We can make you rich. No more running around getting the hots for your sister with a bunch of hairy aliens.

    Relax, join us, and enjoy the high life. Broads, Booze, etc.

    I really think that would have been a much better approach than attacking Luke and yelling at him to join the darkside. That's just me though.

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