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  1. In Topic: ZP - Anti Homosexual Slurs

    Posted 5 Mar 2009

    Yahtzee never reads these forums.

    "Faggot" is a term that gay men would self-apply, say, 20 years ago. Dan Savage of Savage Love fame opened the letters in his colum, with "Hey faggot." Now the term of choice is the gender-neutral "queer."

    I believe that all the fags I know are open about it.

    If it's "tribalism" and "dehumanizing (???) the other" that you're worried about, Ben spends a lot more time picking on nerds than he ever could on faggots. And yeah, by def he is a nerd. So, humour targeting a group you're a member of is ok, and similar humour targeting any other group is HATE! This is so Chris Rock territory here.

    Speaking of that negro looking to rape some white wimmins ... do you think there's a chance that Croshaw did NOT create the entire history of the American South, and that his one-liner is a joking reference to a period of history that might have existed even if he had decided not to review video games? Do you think that even if something gets a laugh, if there is a chance that someone out there might find it offensive you should never ever say it? I have my answer but I'm curious about yours.


    A hate message self directed is still a hate message. Even though a person of African descent might use the word "nigger" (or it's variants), it's still hateful. Nerd is a pretty mild and widely accepted version of this behavior, however, however mildly the intent to put down a group of people, that's still the intent.

    Having written all of this, I have to admit that I have two groups of people that I'm prejudice against. People who drive gold colored cars, and people who drive Volkswagons. I'm working on changing that attitude, but it's hard. . . oh so hard.

    Mutant_Pie

  • In Topic: ZP - Anti Homosexual Slurs

    Posted 5 Mar 2009

    TY for the welcome, and thanks for the compliment.

    I agree, the racial stereo typing crossed the line too. What's the line? (you might ask). Tribalism. Attempts at dehumanizing the "other" by use of labeling. Labels that then are imbued with emotional context, love or hate. Do you have any gay friends (that you know of)? Ask them if "faggot" is an offensive or hate filled word to them. What do you think the answer is?

    BTW, any chance that the guy who named himself after a dice game will review these comments? I was hoping to have an impact on his life.

    Mutant_Pie



    QUOTE (civilian_number_two @ Mar 4 2009, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Gay-bashing? Yikes; I thought the low point was when black-faced Spiderman says

    "Oh lawdy ah is sho gonna rape some white wimmin."

    Even with THAT out there, I need more tangible evidence of HATE literature. Simply making a joke at the expense of another's race, culture, gender, whatever, is not HATE. Not even legally, despite what the 90s tried to say.

    By the way welcome to the forums, and good on your for trying to start a debate with your first post, mutant pie.

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