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  1. In Topic: ZP -- Webcomics

    Posted 4 Jul 2008

    QUOTE (MagicSwordKing @ Jul 4 2008, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    It really is a criticism of terrible gaming comics in its entirety, you can find digs all over the place. Yahtzee takes the opportunity then to prime the cannons and fire on CAD because that really is the worst offender in his eyes, from what I've seen.


    Don' t get me wrong MSK, I know why he's targetted CAD. I have no problem with him targetting CAD and actually agree with his criticisms of that comic. I can however separate my feelings about CAD from my feelings about ZP's take on the subject.

    Possibly the webcomics piece started as an attempt to quantify the worst excesses of the genre with a couple of swipes at CAD as the alpha male of suckiness, but at some point in the production it turned into a rant about CAD with a few generic remarks and name changes to make it look balanced and objective.

    This, "I'm talking about this, but I'm not going to actually admit I'm talking about this" bollocks just stinks of a cheap, passive-aggressive attempt at generating controversy during the lean months. I've come to expect a little more straight-shooting from ZP.

    QUOTE (MagicSwordKing @ Jul 4 2008, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    You Are Wrong Because you are comparing two entirely different entities. There's Zero punctuation as a gaming review/editorial outlet, and then there's this, which I guarantee you he could never get away with sneaking by his corporate paymasters if not for the current title drought.


    No, I'm not. If he releases something under the Zero Punctuation banner, then that's Zero Punctuation. It's on the Escapist on a Wednesday, he's talking fast and it says Zero Punctuation at the start. It's like going to Pizza Hut and finding that they've decided to sell burgers this week instead.

  2. In Topic: ZP -- Webcomics

    Posted 4 Jul 2008

    QUOTE (Ghello @ Jul 4 2008, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Or maybe The Escapist is pulling every string on Yahtzees body to prevent all the CADies to flame the fuck outta their website, its different when you got bosses.


    Ultimately, having devoted more thought to this whole debacle than I really wanted to, there's only one reason i can think of for Yahtzee not blatantly mentioning CAD that doesn't smack of him somehow wimping out: he didn't want to give them any more free publicity.

    If the Escapist were really concerned about having "CADies" boost their page impressions, erm "flame the fuck outta their website" then they wouldn't have posted it at all. Anyone familiar with the source material is capable of putting 2+2 together.

    I'm frankly amazed none of the people leaping to Yahtzee's defense tried that one.

    That said though, I still think when he starts using ZP as a vblog for whatever's pissing him off rather than for reviewing games, it's a slipperly slope that ends in him becoming as big a cock as Buckley apparently is.

    The annoying thing is, if this week's review has boosted his viewing figures and the Escapist's traffic like I suspect it has, then there's every likelihood we'll see more of this stuff in the future.

  3. In Topic: ZP -- Webcomics

    Posted 4 Jul 2008

    QUOTE (Ghello @ Jul 4 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Though he was barely subtle, which was suppose to be part of the joke.


    A joke that has to be explained has already failed.

    My point is, he doesn't beat around the bush with Halo fans, or Nintendo fans, or the fans of any other project he takes his literary chainsaw to. Why does CAD merit the special treatment?

  4. In Topic: ZP -- Webcomics

    Posted 4 Jul 2008

    He did indeed make an explicit reference to a well-known bad webcomic in an essay about webcomics, much like how one might make a reference to Jurassic Park in an essay about raptors. CAD was no doubt among the biggest offenders, but it wasn't nearly the only one as people are making it out to be. (The example comic was also named "Benny Barcade" at one point)


    Yes, but before doing that, he at least mentioned Penny Arcade by name. And he's relatively safe in doing so, since he didn't really rip into them.

    It seems to me he's not shy about using one game to point out the flaws behind a genre (as in the Turok review), but somehow he becomes all coy and "I'm not actually talking about the specific thing I'm blatantly talking about" when it comes to Webcomics.

    In fact the Turok review seems to be the direct inverse of this approach. In that he used one game to point out everything he dislikes about current-generation FPSs. On the other hand, in the webcomics review he seemed to use the non-specific criticism of a genre to take potshots at one or two comics. He'll happily eviscerate Brawl or Halo 3 with iconoclastic glee, but plays it coy when he baits the wrath of Buckley? He may well be a rampant egomaniac with an undeserved amount of popularity, but he's seriously that scary?

    Anyway, just my tuppence worth. I tend to agree with his criticism of CAD and if he'd just had the balls to get out there and say it without any half-assed disclaimers at the end then I probably would have enjoyed it a lot more. Hopefully next week he'll get back to tilting at the Windmills he's obviously more comfortable with. That said, if I see a "Webcomics pt 2." or a "Mailbag Showdown" off the back off this week's one, then I might just skip my ZP fix for a week, or go watch one of the older ones instead.

  • In Topic: ZP -- Webcomics

    Posted 3 Jul 2008

    I find it amusing that, of every terrible webcomic plagued with all the tropes he mentioned, everyone immediately assumes the entire rant was about CAD because of one reference.


    It was the only explicit reference to a specific plotline in the entire review. There were a few background references to CAD (right up the name of the example webcomic being such a thinly-veiled reference that it was obvious he wasn't even trying to hide it.)

    You'd have to be a moron not to connect the trail of dots Yahtzee left in his wake, which makes me assume the review was aimed squarely at CAD's existing readership.

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