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  1. In Topic: A humble submission, sequel trilogy

    Posted 11 May 2006

    QUOTE (Chefelf @ May 11 2006, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Any links to the original discussion you talk about?


    The original discussion was basically:

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    Person: I liked ep2 and 3!

    Me: ZOMG, lies. Anakin's conversion was terrible.

    Person: well, how else could it have been done?

    Me: big fat post of doom.
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    Thanks for the kind comments, folks! Warms me heart.

    Obviously there's a big difference between having a story and actually fitting that into dialogue and a script that works. I'm not sure that I'm capable of it - I do write some fiction, and am well aware of how characters sometimes refuse to do what you want them to. I might give it a go, though.

    I guess the main point about the conversion is this: when the Emperor tries to turn Luke in RotJ, he doesn't try to rationalise with him, he tries to get Luke to use the dark side of the force, to use his anger and hate. It seems much more - I guess the word is satisfying - much more satisfying if a Sith Master can exploit the taint of the Dark Side in a good Jedi, and essentially take him over, rather than, um, TRICK him into doing evil stuff. That's what being a Sith Master *is* - the ability to dominate other Jedi through the dark side.

    The nice thing is, Obi-Wan's warnings and discussion with Anakin could easily explain this process to the audience, and it fits perfectly into what actually happens in RotJ.

    ...and that does maintain the idea of good intentions leading to evil - the Jedi has to be tempted to use the dark side to do GOOD, but will ultimately be corrupted by that. It makes the same sort of political message I think Lucas was trying to make, but in a much more subtle way (eg, the modern temptation to use torture to achieve a good outcome).

    Oh, and my underlying philosophy here is that the movies, the 6 of them, are ABOUT Anakin Skywalker, his rise and fall. He's the only character who's alive in all the movies, with the possible exception of R2 and Threepio (though, frankly, I found the cramming of every possible reference from the originals into the new movies was downright twee. Even if they are in the new movies, they really could be seen as (largely passive) witnesses, sorta like the audience themselves, but on-screen).

    Really, I don't want Anakin to be a feeble angsty teenager. I want him, absolutely any time you see him on screen or read his name in the script, to be Anakin MUTHAFARKIN SKYWALKER!!! (yeah!).

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