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Posted 06 March 2010 - 04:26 PM

There, didn't I tell you that we all think alike?

But wait a sec - these guys want to form militia and fight - what? Government who set up the law that they are able to carry the said guns? Weird. But I was never any good in getting into other people's minds - some things are ust beyond my comprehension.

Speaking of fear - I have recently got into a heated discussion on some blog concerning global warming. Man, these guys have almost eatem me alive when I said that CO2 tax is stupid and ineffective... Sorry, had to tell this to someone...
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 03:11 AM

Well they want to fight the government that has too much control... They view taking their guns away as the first step towards an imperialistic regime that would strip away all rights, because without the guns, the government could use the military as the force behind such a drastic move. There really are a lot of people that think that's going to happen, so they want their guns to fight if they deem a coup necessary. Obama will declare himself emperor and force us all into slave labour and gay marriages with death panels kind of thing.

Re: CO2 tax - most measures being taken to protect the environment are stupid and ineffective, IMO. Cap and trade is my personal favourite. :rolleyes: But I'm not sure how that relates?

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 05:16 AM

View PostSpoon Poetic, on 07 March 2010 - 03:11 AM, said:

Well they want to fight the government that has too much control... They view taking their guns away as the first step towards an imperialistic regime that would strip away all rights, because without the guns, the government could use the military as the force behind such a drastic move. There really are a lot of people that think that's going to happen, so they want their guns to fight if they deem a coup necessary. Obama will declare himself emperor and force us all into slave labour and gay marriages with death panels kind of thing.


It reminds me of Catholic sreaming at the top of their lungs in my country that they are being oppressed. Wait a second - you have religion in public schools, crosses everywhere, anti-abortion laws straight from catholic way of thinking, politicians conferring with bishops all the time decisions are taken and yet you scream of OPRESSION?

This government that they fear so far ALLOWS this gun parade! But well, maybe it works different in US, with federal and state legislation not being necessarily the same and these guys just fear that federal laws are going to infringe on their redneck territory.

Anyway, I just feel SAFER when I know that over here it is pretty much impossible for ordinary people to get hold of a gun - the only exceptions being small airguns, for which you do not need permit. Favourite passtime of gun enthusiasts in my country, I believe, is shooting pidgeons and crows with these things. Or paintball. When I feel sudden urge to shoot at things, I have a round of Fallout 3 rather than paintball (paintball hurts like hell)- and yes, hunting rifle is far less effective than assault rifle :P

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But I'm not sure how that relates?

It doesn't. Just, as I mentioned in Star Wars forums, there are so few of us these days, that it is not (IMHO) worth opening a new topic. I just had to vent my frustration somehow. But ok, maybe I will start a new topic.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 10:45 PM

Here in Canada, you can't legally buy a gun without completing a course in gun safety. Here in Canada, lots of people have guns but very few keep handguns under their beds fully loaded with a bullet in the chamber or otherwise unsafely stored and within reach of children. Of course, here in Canada we are under the oppressive yoke of a tptalitarian regime, complete with gay marriages and socialized medicine.
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 01:16 AM

You crazy Canadian's!!!!

And MC, Paintball only hurts like hell if you get hit. You should practice not getting hit :-D

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:38 AM

View PostSupes, on 08 March 2010 - 01:16 AM, said:

And MC, Paintball only hurts like hell if you get hit. You should practice not getting hit :-D


Ha ha ha , how very true. However, it only works when the other side plays by the rules. I got hit when I ran out of balls, waved my gun in the air and turned back to get a fresh supply. Some &#%$*% hit me square in the back. Need I mention, that it was the first and last time I played paintball? And of course, I never knew who it was.
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:51 PM

It's totally off topic, but I love telling this story: A friend of mine got married some years back. His nephew had a friend who was also getting married. We decided that for the stags we would play paintball, one group against the other, and then go for dinner and some drinks. To hell with all that nonsense guys are supposed to get up to on stag parties; we wanted to have actual fun, not artificial fun. So anyway, we expected to get seriously beat by these kids: we were all in our mid-to-late 30s and they were all in their early 20s, and many of them in great shape. Turns out there were a few things we hadn't counted on: older guys have played a lot of first-person shooter games, have manageable egos, and don't prefer to run on uneven ground. So we had fire discipline, chain of command, communication (by hand signals), and we didn't break out of position to chase guys, or at least not without communicating that we planned to (easy way to flush the enemy out of hiding is to run to one flank while moving in support fire on the other). We were shocked that we beat them in every single match; in one game we lost only 3 out of 25 while we eliminated all 30 of them. At one point we were even talking about mixing uop the teams, but no one really wanted to do it (we didn't want to deal with cowboys on our team, and they didn't want to admit they needed any help). Even losing like they did, they still had fun; many of them played Junior hockey so they were athletes and good sports about losing.

But yeah, paintball with strangers is a waste of time. Too many cheaters, too many shitheads. I haven't tried it since that stag, which was years ago.

PS: Don't you try to take mah guns away!
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 06:24 PM

Yeah, the only way to play paintball with with a complete group where you know players on both teams. Otherwise you just get a-holes who cant handle that they were outwitted.

I've been fortunate enough to have a very similar experience to yourself Civ and it is a glorious feeling to see brains win over brawn when all else is equal. One of the best days out. Oddly enough it was also on a Bucks (Stag) weekend.

Next time you visit MC we'll take you out paintballing again and show you how it's done. :-)
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 08:17 PM

My only experience with paint ball has been... well... stupid. Me and my friends decided that lightsaber deflection looked cool. We had a paintball gun and a slingshot. Blake insisted he try it out so he goes out on the lawn and I shot paintballs at his chest while he tried to block them with a sword. I think he blocked one or two shots, not bad really.

Now water guns, thats always been my favorite, not nearly as painful as paintball, and a lot more fun on a hot summer day. I have probably the most complete collection of 1990s super soakers in the state. Even the saught after 2000 and monster XL. Forgive me if no one has a clue what I'm on about.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 09:13 PM

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Forgive me if no one has a clue what I'm on about.


I will personally forgive you for my own ignorance of the topic. Hopefully others can find it in their hearts to forgive you for theirs.
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 10:13 PM

View PostJ m HofMarN, on 08 March 2010 - 08:17 PM, said:

Now water guns, thats always been my favorite, not nearly as painful as paintball, and a lot more fun on a hot summer day. I have probably the most complete collection of 1990s super soakers in the state. Even the saught after 2000 and monster XL. Forgive me if no one has a clue what I'm on about.


I used to sell a selections of the Super Soakers in the early 90's when I worked in a large toy store. I think it was the Super Soaker 3000 which had the back pack... it served me well. We spent one evening on the night fill (which was a very small fill night) running around the store for about 3 hours in a 16 man (and woman) soak fest. Then spent the following 2 hours on clean up so no evidence remained.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 02:26 AM

View PostSupes, on 08 March 2010 - 06:24 PM, said:

Next time you visit MC we'll take you out paintballing again and show you how it's done. :-)


Thank you. On nostalgia note, looking back, that trip to Australia was the best thing that ever happened to me when I was working for that ^%$# corporation. And 90% of the "best thing" was that I met friedns there. But I am sure paintball experience will beat even Belgium Beer Cafe :).


View PostSupes, on 08 March 2010 - 10:13 PM, said:

I used to sell a selections of the Super Soakers in the early 90's when I worked in a large toy store. I think it was the Super Soaker 3000 which had the back pack... it served me well. We spent one evening on the night fill (which was a very small fill night) running around the store for about 3 hours in a 16 man (and woman) soak fest. Then spent the following 2 hours on clean up so no evidence remained.


I should think shooting water in a toy store would not be wise. Weren't you be afraid of soaking all the teddies and Baribe's clothes? When I was little I was not allowed to administer injections to teddy bears (my mother worked in hospital, so I watched giving injections a lot), because they were difficult to dry. DOlls, on the other hand, were ok, because after injection all you had to do was to detach a leg or arm and pur out the water.

On the gun note - when I was little, my brother used to construct various devices that shoot things and made explosions. Funny thing is, my husband, whose childhood was good twenty years earlier also told me of his forays into military engineering and the designs was basically the same. Looks like the knowledge how to make "key guns" was somehow spread like an ancient lore.

But man, these things were dangerous. Homemade arrows and bows, not to mention shooting with ball bearing balls.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 12:38 PM

See? Kids make guns. Boys always want to shoot things or make things explode. Just the nature of boys. And paintball is fun. All these things PROVE that we should be able to tote around our semi-automatics AT ALL TIMES. Especially when getting coffee.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 01:42 PM

View PostSpoon Poetic, on 09 March 2010 - 12:38 PM, said:

See? Kids make guns. Boys always want to shoot things or make things explode. Just the nature of boys.


Nah, it is just the kids who were exposed to a lot of war films and TV. Would you believe, the most famous TV series for kids of all times in my country is a series about WWII and a tank crew who go all the way from Russia to Berlin? ALL boys wanted to be the crew members, here is wikipedia reference:
http://en.wikipedia....pancerni_i_pies

(gosh, is there any shit in the world that is NOT referenced in Wikipedia???)
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 02:27 PM

Wow, real zip guns. When I was a kid, all we got up to was shooting clothespin guns. We'd take the hinge out of one clothespin, attach two rubber bands to it, stretch them to their maximum tnsion, and then put the hinge in the "mouth" of a clothespin that had been mounted to wood. If you can't pictiure what I mean, the long and short of it is that we would shoot these tiny metal barbs at each other, and they could fly up to 50 feet with reasonable force. Yes, I am about to say "We're lucky someone didn't lose an eye."
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