Revolution! Do you hear the people sing?
#18
Posted 16 June 2004 - 03:03 AM
*removes the knife Jane inserts during the process*
Hmm, shiny, and slick with my blood...
Less Is More v4
Now resigned to a readership of me, my cat and some fish
#20
Posted 16 June 2004 - 10:51 AM
To be honest, I tend to spend a lot of time crapping on about how Puffins are supreme in real life as well.
So, whats my job?
JM's official press secretary, scientific advisor, diplomat and apparent antagonist?
#21
Posted 16 June 2004 - 01:49 PM
Well then, you'd be suprised at my hugs per minute rating when I'm on a roll...
Less Is More v4
Now resigned to a readership of me, my cat and some fish
#22
Posted 17 June 2004 - 01:18 AM
"I will join their revolution! I will know the things they know."
Yoda
#23
Posted 17 June 2004 - 02:11 AM
I had a couple threads at the old thread based on Les Mis, and only Mudda knew what I was going on about.
If you start it, though, Janey could respond with Javert's next verse (assuming she had it memorised):
"One more day to revolution. We must nip it in the bud."
"I will join these little school boys. They will wet themselves with blood."
Jimbo: We had to kill them to keep them from going extinct.
#24
Posted 17 June 2004 - 02:34 AM
I had a couple threads at the old thread based on Les Mis, and only Mudda knew what I was going on about.
If you start it, though, Janey could respond with Javert's next verse (assuming she had it memorised):
"One more day to revolution. We must nip it in the bud."
"I will join these little school boys. They will wet themselves with blood."
Awww shucks ma'am you're going to make me blush.
Here's some fun for you then:
Javert Quiz
"I know their ways, fought their wars, served my time in the days of my youth."
Yoda
#25
Posted 17 June 2004 - 03:09 AM
The sad part is that everytime I read a question, I heard the song in my head in full.
I got 100%, but I don't agree with some of their responses. Following are my quibbles with the quiz:
Long post WARNING
SPOILERS FOR THE QUIZ (on the off-chance someone takes it)
"Can this be true? I don't believe what I see...a man your age to be as strong as you are."
Them: He begins to suspect that Valjean could be an escape convict.
Me: I don't think he was suspecting it yet. He was merely in awe at that point and things were beginning to click in his mind, but he thought too much in black and white to even suspect a person of such high standing could be an ex-con. Admittedly, this is quibbling over symantics since they had a limited space to write, but meh.
"One more day till revolution, we will nip it in the bud."
Them: Here, Javert makes another vow - to stop the revolution from happening, by becoming a spy.
Me: I don't think he was really vowing anything. He simply was doing what he saw as his duty, which was really his main drive in life.
"How right you should kill with a knife."
Them:He admits that Valjean has a right to kill him.
Me: I think he threw that line in there just to spit in Valjean's eye a bit. He was just trying to maintain his superiority over Valjean despite his unpleasant situation. He was saying that Valjean was confirming his animal status in his eyes since he would kill with a knife.
I did warn you it was long.
Supes, we should start at the beginning and see how long it takes us to get through the entire opera a ) going one line at a time b ) before we're both banned. Anyone else who knows Les Mis would be welcome to join in.
This post has been edited by Mist: 17 June 2004 - 03:16 AM
Jimbo: We had to kill them to keep them from going extinct.
#26
Posted 17 June 2004 - 01:03 PM
"There was a time when men were kind
When their voices were soft
And their words inviting
There was a time when love was blind
And the world was a song
And the song was exciting.
There was a time
It all went wrong."
We took Yahtzee and his brother to see Les Mis when they were about 10 and 12, we had a booth right at the back of the stalls so all we saw of the actors on the revolutionary battlements was from the knees down. Still loved the music and have seen it twice since.
#27
Posted 17 June 2004 - 08:35 PM
I figure if we insert the lines in amongst our meaningful posts then we should be safe!
I think that they were just trying to be brief and thus the simplistic summaries. But I understand the need to be picky where Les Mis. is concerned.
I went and saw it for the first time a few years ago. I knew nothing about it at all and was completely blown away. It was one of the most amazing things that I had seen and heard. I saw the Sydney production 4 times. Their cast was brilliant, Dave Willets as Val Jean, Philip Quast as Javert (the worlds greatest Javert in my opinion), Rachel Beck as Fantine, Michael Ball as Marius. And a supporting cast that was just fabulous. Unfortunately we missed out on having Anthony Warlow as he had to pull out of the show. I can't wait for it to tour here again.
Yoda
#28
Posted 18 June 2004 - 01:17 AM
Rant on Les Mis:
I saw pieces of the movie and only had a vague idea as to what it was about. I then saw the full movie and enjoyed it, so I read the books. They were excellent, but, since I chose to read them for a school project it made it less enjoyable. I then decided to read it later on and I had most of it memorised before I ever saw the play. When I saw the play (and the movie again later) I was blown away by how sugar-coated it was. I thought it was excellent as a play though, but it's definitely second only to Blade Runner and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep in the "changed storyline during modifyication to fit a play/movie format" category. The story is very different. If you haven't read it, and you enjoyed one or more of the other mediums, I'd highly recommend it in book form. The only thing is, you have to be prepared for a more depressing story. The most astonishing thing was the way they made Marius into almost a hero figure in the others. In the books, he's only human. Everyone is more human. In fact, Javert is one of the most noticeable changes. He's not as "black and white" in the books.
The other funny thing about the books is the history imbued within them. Valjean will walk by a stone wall with battle scars, and Hugo will go off on a tangent about the history of the wall with a recount of the true battle. It's funny how much of French history he manages to tie together with the characters.
I also find it amusing that it's an opera, but it's billed as "Les Miserables: The Musical". Kind of like how Phantom of the Opera's really a musical.
Anywho, the movie and play are excellent, but they aren't exactly the same story as the books. Erum, sorry. I really relate to Les Mis, so I'm prone to rants, and I'm passionate about it, so it doesn't take much effort to focus, which is good right now. Good thing you're used to it by this point.
I'll start then?
*chain-gang moaning and working*
chaingang chorus:"Look down. Look down. Don't look 'em in the eye."
(took the first vocal line)
This post has been edited by Mist: 18 June 2004 - 01:39 AM
Jimbo: We had to kill them to keep them from going extinct.
#29
Posted 18 June 2004 - 02:10 AM
CONVICT ONE - The sun is strong, It's hot as hell below.
I'm currently reading the book and have yet to see the movie so will be able to add more to his particular string as my reading progresses. I don't get a great deal of time to read at the moment so it's going to be slow going I'd say.
Yoda
#30
Posted 19 June 2004 - 11:35 PM
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chaingang chorus: "Look down. Look down. You've twenty years to go."
I suppose before we get too far into it, we should decide which version we're going to do: Concert or play? Also, should we continue line-by-line, or jump into verse-by-verse? <- My new mission.
The concert version is even more pared down than the play, so we'd finish sooner. I would lean towards the play version, but that's just me.
Hope you enjoy the books.
Edit: I ended with 11: "How long, oh lord, before you let me die?" Just so you're not forced to read through all my rambling. Otherwise, this'd turn into a scavenger hunt.
This post has been edited by Mist: 20 June 2004 - 04:10 PM
Jimbo: We had to kill them to keep them from going extinct.