[Heccubus]

I mean really what are they going to do, rivers of blood flowing out of people?

Take it up with the critics who wet themselves over "Kill Bill".

[Just your average movie goer]

You did not know that the good guys were going to win at all.

Well we didn't before! Only joking around - I'm not bothered by that little spoiler. 1. We come to expect the good guys to win in these movies eventually. And -
2. I'm not planning on ever seeing the film anyway.

[looktothesky]

That movie doesn't look too bad, but that's what trailers do... show all the pretty parts, leave out the boring ones.
I wanna see this though... it looks spiffy!

EDIT - I wonder what the rating is? Oooooooooh!

This post has been edited by looktothesky: 16 June 2004 - 01:56 PM

[Heccubus]

That movie doesn't look too bad, but that's what trailers do... show all the pretty parts, leave out the boring ones.
I wanna see this though... it looks spiffy!

EDIT - I wonder what the rating is? Oooooooooh!

Fine then, we'll go see it together, and have fun and laugh and go "eww" at the gore, and everyone else can sit at home and go "ho hum". It's about time someone else posted something in favour of this thing.

[Esco]

just got done watching the trailer. My initial thoughts...well I think its a
study of masochism 101. Definitely not for me.
I am compelled by movies that will explore horror through psychologically confounding the viewer, or by movies that tease you with fear. Not movies that
show gratutious amounts of pain and suffering just because they can get away with it. That seems to be the direction that this movie is taking (at least in the trailer). Dont get me wrong, I love a good slasher flick, or even a well made gore flick, but not a vile and scarring movie that serves no other purpose.

This post has been edited by Esco: 17 June 2004 - 12:45 PM

[Amber-Nicole]

Take it up with the critics who wet themselves over "Kill Bill".

Heh, my thoughts exactly. I'm not much one for bloody movies. My boyfriend finally talked me into watching Kill Bill with him. It didn't bother me at all, because the amount of blood shooting out of people like a water hose was so overexaggerated that it was comical. I guess it's the whole anime thing though. Wasn't too bad of a movie. I like it when movies aren't quite so realistic, they aren't as disturbing then.

[J m HofMarN]

Kill Bill I will never see. I loved pulp fiction. I mean it was violent but noone can deny that the plot and dialogue were just as sharp as any weapon used in the film. Tarantino at his best. Kill Bill sounds like, well, someone killing Bill. No, that's not good for me. The hero sounds horribly convuluted and messed up and it just sounds pretty much like they just made it to give Uma Thurman an excuse to go nuts with a katana other then that she's Uma Thurman and she has a katana.

I think Amber has touched on something here that is important. This shit is not the fault of females. A woman will not put up with this shit. A man will watch it with his buddies and not get scared and thus look macho. However, when these movies cease to scare even teh least masculine fellow they have to be made worse so that we can continue our idea of hte process of natural selection or rutting if you will, call it what you like it's basically saying "you're a wuss and you're not passing on your wussy genes, make way for my non-wuss dna".

I think some guy things are kind of cool, I'll swordfight, fist fight, pillow fight, drinking contest, try to out-twink my friends, try to out-shoot my friends and try to display better knowledge of gaming then my friends. That's all well and good but in these games there's a winner. I think Chefelf pointed out that a friend of his, Chris I believe, invented games such as "Wet Foot" and "Hot car" in which the only winner was misery. That's what hte horror genre has largely become. It's basically a bunch of guys hitting themselves in the face with a hammer to prove how cool they are but as I said in this game there is no winner. All competitors are hurt and the females that our hormones tell us to impress just think we're creepy or disturbed or scary or un-feeling.

Horror movies like some of the ones being put out these days are a bane to our species and a danger to our continued dominance of this planet. They must be stopped.

[Heccubus]

Someone be sure to punch me in the face next time I think anyone here would actually enjoy something.

[Jane Sherwood]

Ooh! Dibs!

[SimeSublime]

Kill Bill I will never see. I loved pulp fiction. I mean it was violent but noone can deny that the plot and dialogue were just as sharp as any weapon used in the film.

I can deny it. I watched Kill Bill, having no idea who Tarintino was, and quite enjoyed it. I was a bit worried at first about the violence I'd heard about, but it was obviously meant to be over the top, and actually helped get into the swing of things. Usually I hate unneeded blood and gore, being as squemish as I am, but this actually worked. So, Pulp Fiction came on TV a few weeks ago, and I thought I probably should watch it, seeing as Kill Bill was so enjoyable and everybody raves about how good PF is. So, I sat down to watch it and thought the movie was mostly rubbish. It seemed like nothing but a crappy version of Snatch or Lock Stock and Two Loaded Barrels.

[Mist]

Take it up with the critics who wet themselves over "Kill Bill".

Heh, my thoughts exactly. I'm not much one for bloody movies. My boyfriend finally talked me into watching Kill Bill with him. It didn't bother me at all, because the amount of blood shooting out of people like a water hose was so overexaggerated that it was comical. I guess it's the whole anime thing though. Wasn't too bad of a movie. I like it when movies aren't quite so realistic, they aren't as disturbing then.

That's what Tarentino's been going for for a long time, right? There are numerous interviews with him where he explains the point he's trying to make. His most memorable quote goes something like "If sex is no big deal in porn, why should violence be a big deal in an action movie?" I think he's trying to poke fun at the genre as well. Just thought I'd point that out. He did it in his other movies as well but not as far over-the-top as Kill Bill, but they were also a little more artsy/cult-oriented. Kill Bill was more pop-oriented, so it's more obvious so that more people will catch on. That's my take on it, at least.

Simey, didn't Pulp Fiction come before those other two? Now I'm curious. If I remember correctly, PF blazed the trail and was the inspiration for those movies.

Edit: Pulp Fiction(1994) Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels(1998) Snatch(2000)

This post has been edited by Mist: 20 June 2004 - 05:27 PM

[Jane Sherwood]

I've never seen either one, and I don't really care, either.

[Supes]

Someone be sure to punch me in the face next time I think anyone here would actually enjoy something.

If I was in town I'd come along and see it with you Hecc. I'm a big fan of the horror genre and I always like to see a flick so that I can determine its worth for myself.

As it stands, I'll have to grab a mate of mine who shares my interest in the genre and we'll head alongto check it out. I always reserve judgement and don't base anything on the trailers. As LTTS says, they can really skew a point of view and often show you the only 5 good scenes in the movie.

[Heccubus]

It's not possible to compare Pulp fiction to Lock Stock or Snatch. It has nothing in common with either of those two movies.

I try not to base anything on trailers either, Supes, but it's also a bit of an exaggeration to say that they only show you the best five scenes of a movie. I mean, look at the original Matrix. The trailers for that did nothing to make me want to see that movie, and then when you watch it and have all of these strange new things happening, well...you get one hell of a movie. The same could be said for SE7EN or American Beauty (both made as good as they are because of their wicked endings). At any rate, I've always believed that trailers give you a decent idea of what the movie will be like. I can usually tell be a later-release trailer whether or not I'll be interested in a movie. The "Saw" one just caught my eye because it's extremely intense, and gives me the impression that they may be leaving some of the more plot-intensive scenes out until the release draws closer. Just to generate some buzz around the movie, you know?

[Just your average movie goer]

I decided I'd pop by this thread again, seeing it had become such a hot topic. I have to say Esco sums up my point of view best. He said it a lot better too. Like him, I have no interest in -

movies that show gratutious amounts of pain and suffering just because they can get away with it.

or

vile and scarring movie[s] that serve[] no other purpose.

I think the world is better off without them.

Someone be sure to punch me in the face next time I think anyone here would actually enjoy something.

Ah Heccubus, this movie is the kind of thing that would only appeal to a small portion of the population. It's pretty safe to assume that most people wouldn't like this kind of film. Don't worry though - nobody's going to punch anyone in the face.

This post has been edited by Just your average movie goer: 21 June 2004 - 08:25 AM