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Posted 05 June 2004 - 10:51 AM

If you were to issue a list of demands, what would they be?

Mine would be a short and rather modest list....

1. Release the pre-Special Edition versions of the original trilogy on DVD.

2. You can release them in a box set if you so desire, as long as you also give us the option to buy them seperately.



And as for the prequels, I wouldn't care. He could make Jango Fett be Anakin's uncle, Count Dookoo be the Emperor's brother, Yoda reveal himself as being an extremely aged gungan, Yoda could clone himself to win the fight against the seperatists and Jar Jar Binks could be the Emperor's love child.... and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest anymore because I'm not going to watch these films.

Just let me have the untainted versions of Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back on DVD and I'll leave you alone, George. It's that easy.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 11:30 AM

1. Dispose of the prequels made so far, start afresh and hand over control to people who actually know how to write and direct. Let them come up with the plot, handle the casting, write the script etc.

2. Just leave the original trilogy alone, please.

3. Give the go-ahead for a TV mini-series of Knights of the Old Republic (but again, leave the actual production up to someone else). Ah, if only that happened I could die happy...
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?

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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 10:09 PM

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If you were to issue a list of demands, what would they be?"


1.Give up all control of the Star Wars franchise and name to me, Mike Mac & Civilian Two. And put it in writting. You can sit back in your ranch and collect royalty checks for the rest of your days, George. cool.gif

2. Create a multi-million dollar trust fund, for which I could withdraw all the necessary cash required to remake the Prequel Trilogy and another sequel trilogy.

3. End the sales of the New Trilogy and Special Editions. Those movies will only be released until I have finished the New Prequel Trilogy. Then we could add them into a massive 13 Disc DVD set costing $299.99 US laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif {What did you guys expect???? Why waste the opportunity to make money}

-The old prequel movies will be edited to inlude MST3K-like commentary on the movie. Heck, it will have the original MST3K cast commentating on the movie.!!! laugh.gif
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Posted 05 June 2004 - 10:46 PM

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The old prequel movies will be edited to inlude MST3K-like commentary on the movie. Heck, it will have the original MST3K cast commentating on the movie.!!! 


I like it, Mike. cool.gif
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 07:53 AM

Well, given that Lucas won't even read these, let alone implement any of them, I guess we have the scope to be as outrageous as we want in our demands. However, I think I might, where possible, try to keep mine within the realms of "remote possibility" as opposed to "no bloody chance".

1. Release the original trilogy, pre-Special Edition on DVD. The only alterations permitted to this would be a clean-up of the print and sound purely to restore it to original first-day mint condition. The trilogy should come both separately, and in a box set, and should feature (at the very least): a commentary by objective fans (instead of rabid SW geeks) who are able to discuss the trilogy warts and all; every scrap of behind the scenes material available compiled into a series of comprehensive documentaries; a new documentary detailing the TRUE and HONEST reasons why George Lucas felt the need to bugger with the movies - none of this "I always felt the films were incomplete" crap, we want the truth - the real reasons (I will accept the following: "I wanted to make more money", "I'm a demented perfectionist who can't leave things alone", "The original trilogy had dramatic elements, likeable characters, involved storylines, and I'm just not comfortable with that - I wanted a farcical comedy suitable only for those under the age of 7, with poo jokes, dodgy racism, and a complete lack of believability").

2. Never release the Prequel trilogy, in any format, ever again. They are to remain locked in a vault, far away from Marin County where you can't get your hands on them. If necessary, we should destroy the original negatives and anything associated with these ghastly movies.

3. Hand over complete creative control of the Star Wars universe to someone who knows what they're doing. Preferably someone who isn't even a fan - at least then they can be objective about it. Let them begin the creation of a new prequel trilogy, and a sequel trilogy to follow ROTJ. Hire someone to direct who's attitude to effects is "sets if possible, models if not, CG as a last resort" (like Peter Jackson). Hire a decent writer, one who has a proven track record in quality screenplays that just so happen to make first-class blockbusters (like Peter Jackson).

4. Leave the original trilogy alone - forever. We can't fix the flaws in ROTJ, as it would involve re-writing and re-shooting whole scenes with actors who are now too old to do it. Besides, tampering with your movies is what got you in this mess in the first place, George. If necessary, the movies should be protected in the same way that important land and buildings are protected here in the UK. Hey, you could even hand the movies over to the National Trust!

5. Expunge the entire Star Wars saga from your CV. After all the screwing around you've done with it, after all the effects-laden creatively-vacuous blockbuster movies that have come out over the last two decades that are now your legacy, you have no right whatsoever to claim to be the creator of Star Wars anymore. Besides, all the best ideas in it came from other people anyway.

6. Fire everyone at ILM who can't say "no" to you. I know they've revolutionised the effects industry, and created some of the most incredible imagery ever put on screen, but they, like you, have lost the plot, and are far more concerned these days with presenting spectacle that overwhelms the story, as opposed to artistry that supports it. ILM's effects over the last few years have been heavy on the "hey, isn't this cool?" factor, deliberately drawing attention to the visuals, instead of allowing them to blend invisibly into the background.

I know I'd planned on being a little be realistic in my demands, but to hell with it. Might as well go for broke.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 08:38 AM

QUOTE (DistantAngel @ Jun 15 2004, 07:53 AM)
ILM's effects over the last few years have been heavy on the "hey, isn't this cool?" factor, deliberately drawing attention to the visuals, instead of allowing them to blend invisibly into the background.

SW Insider expounds upon how in the opening space battle there will be plenty of cool things happening in the background of the focus fighting.


Just keep pushing those oils around. I'll sign the painting Lucas and it'll sell.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 08:46 AM

Man, that was a great post, Distant Angel. I loved it. Welcome to the forum.

I really loved the idea of Lucas giving honest reasons why he buggered around with the original movies so much.

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"The original trilogy had dramatic elements, likeable characters, involved storylines, and I'm just not comfortable with that -


That line was brilliant.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 09:49 AM

1. Put me in your will.

2. Die.

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No! to be serious,

1. Like everyone else's list: release the original trilogy with commentary. I don't care what you say on the commentary; just make it honest. And include a separate track each for director, producer, cast, and chief special effects designers. Each commentary would be lots of fun.

2. Admit to your dogged fans, the SW Insider types, that you never had a master plan. They're incomplete people, lost in miserable fandom, and a little reality check would do them some good. The funny thing is, only a few will turn on STAR WARS as a result; the rest will love it as much as always or more. The one or two who want to write may actually release something, suddenly aware they don't need the whole series to be written before putting out episode one.

3. Go back to producing, and leave the film making to directors and writers. You were at your best when you allowed other experts inside your circle.

4. Take over the James Bond franhise. I think that would be fucking hillarious!
"I had a lot of different ideas. At one point, Luke, Leia and Ben were all going to be little people, and we did screen tests to see if we could do that." -George Lucas, in STAR WARS: the Annotated Screenplays (p197).
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 10:17 AM

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4. Take over the James Bond franhise. I think that would be fucking hillarious!


I think the James Bond Series is messed up enough without Lucas help! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Lucas should actually start doing Super Hero movies like Spider-man or Batman.

Would be interested to see how Lucas would make a Super hero adventure film.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 10:27 AM

True. It'd be easier for him. I mean, it's hard to do any worse than Batman and Robin.


And I loved your list, Civilian.


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2. Admit to your dogged fans, the SW Insider types, that you never had a master plan. They're incomplete people, lost in miserable fandom, and a little reality check would do them some good. The funny thing is, only a few will turn on STAR WARS as a result; the rest will love it as much as always or more.


That's actually quite altruistic of you. I'd never actually thought of helping those people - I kind of wrote them off as being a lost cause. But maybe there's some hope of turning them into thinking human beings.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE (Mike Mac from NYU @ Jun 15 2004, 04:17 PM)
I think the James Bond Series is messed up enough without Lucas help! laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Too true. Oh, God, imagine the romantic dialogue...
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?

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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.

- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 11:02 AM

Oi Moi. Meessa Stirred it nossum Shakum.
as long as they kill the Lucas type villian.
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 11:18 AM

QUOTE (Helena @ Jun 15 2004, 10:45 AM)
QUOTE (Mike Mac from NYU @ Jun 15 2004, 04:17 PM)
I think the James Bond Series is messed up enough without Lucas help! laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Too true. Oh, God, imagine the romantic dialogue...

Oh dear God, I can see it now ...

INT James Bond walks into the offices of Universal Exports; the front for MI6. Miss Moneypenny sits behind her desk, behind her a large window, out of which can be seen CG versions of Big Ben, the London Eye, Marble Arch, the Millennium Dome, the Thames Barrier, an Underground station, and No. 10 Downing Street, despite the fact that none of these can ever be seen all at once.

Walking past the window are many typical British types (CG'd); black suits and bowler hats, Union Flag T-shirts, and pearly king and queen garb - just like in real life. BOND walks over to a hat stand (CG) and hangs his jacket on it.

BOND (moving to sit on the edge of the desk)
Good morning, Moneypenny

MONEYPENNY
Ah, James. Back from your latest mission, I see?

BOND
Yes. Maybe my next mission can be to rescue your heart.

MONEYPENNY
Ah, but I thought you liked your missions to be a little hard?

BOND
No. I don't like hard. It's too ... hard. Too, erm, solid. I like things that are soft. Like you. Soft things are good. They feel nicer to touch than things that are hard. Things that are ... erm, not soft.

MONEYPENNY (knowingly)
But sometimes hard can be good, James

BOND
Oh, yes, I like hard too. If you like hard, then I'll like hard. Hard can be nicer than soft. Sometimes. Not always. Soft is nice, but hard is nice too ... it's nice when you like it, I like it as well. [pause] Will you marry me?

MONEYPENNY
[thinks for a moment] Of course I will, James ... I've always loved misogynistic, murdering, brutal, creepy stalker weirdo freaks like you! In fact, if you slaughter me a few women and children from whatever nationality has been designated as Evil Race of the Month, I'll be super in love with you then!

BOND exits, itching to commit mass genocide just to get at Moneypenny's "not hard" bits ...
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 11:56 AM

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2. Admit to your dogged fans, the SW Insider types, that you never had a master plan. They're incomplete people, lost in miserable fandom, and a little reality check would do them some good. The funny thing is, only a few will turn on STAR WARS as a result; the rest will love it as much as always or more.



That's actually quite altruistic of you. I'd never actually thought of helping those people - I kind of wrote them off as being a lost cause. But maybe there's some hope of turning them into thinking human beings.



What are you guys trying to do? Start another 200 post war over Return of the Jedi? rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

I declared a truce on ROTJ.

Is there no peace in our time?? sad.gif
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 12:07 PM

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I think the James Bond Series is messed up enough without Lucas help!


Although, I do think that both Goldeneye would be vastly improved if Jar-Jar Binks replaced Joe Don 'Mitchell!" Bake'rs role. {God what a pointless embarassing role...reminiscent of that fat southern sheriff in :The Man with the Golden Gun"

That would be a be a blast!!! laugh.gif

Could also replace Robbie Coltrane's role with Jango Fett!!! {another bad, pointless role in Goldeneye}
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