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How to get a JOB? The resume, cover letter, meet in person, call over phone....etc

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 07:39 PM

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Such is life, so now I need a new job. The last job I got, and it was the only 'real' job I ever had, was given to me by some one I knew in the company. I didn't really have to impress any one. I walked in gave the HR agent my resume, and within 2 hours I was brought to my desk. It took no skill on my part to get that desk.

I now need a new job. Here is my Problem

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I want to work in a new field. There is nobody in my city that wants me. I have a bit of experience in a different and very specific field, which is dead at the moment. I want to work in the energy field. Every energy company in my city only wants seniors and people with relevant experience.

I have my cover letter and resume, but there are no job openings for me.

I'm really excited to work in this field, I've even done 50hrs minimum of research learning about these companies. Should I go in and ask for a job, even though there are none? I'm willing to work for less than what I made before, just as long as I have a stable job within the company. How do you get a new job in a new field with no experience and with no job openings?

If you tell me to go back to my old field, then I'll say I hated it and it's dead at the moment (ie-no work). The energy sector is not dead and will never die so I'm hoping to land a stable job there.

I'm thinking I go to these companies with CL/Resume in hand and just plead for a job, and impress them with my knowledge of their company. Any ways, what do you think?

This post has been edited by Jordan: 30 April 2009 - 07:40 PM

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Posted 01 May 2009 - 07:51 AM

I just realized how fucking retarded my thread is, feel free to ignore it or burn it to the fucking ground.
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Posted 01 May 2009 - 08:21 AM

Carpet bomb potential employers with your resume, see if you can take some classes or earn some certifications and don't be opposed to one off fields of work.

Also work on your interview skills and definitely broaden your network of contacts/references, especially if they may have experience in the energy sector.
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Posted 03 May 2009 - 04:02 PM

"Experience" is a lose term anyway. All they mostly want is assurance that if they hire you as a Java-programmer, you won't end up drinking coffee all day long. So if you can identify cases like that, it should be easy enough to convince people of your natural abilities in combination with your steep learning curve.

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 07:08 AM

QUOTE (Gobbler @ May 3 2009, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Experience" is a lose term anyway. All they mostly want is assurance that if they hire you as a Java-programmer, you won't end up drinking coffee all day long. So if you can identify cases like that, it should be easy enough to convince people of your natural abilities in combination with your steep learning curve.


You're right about it being a loose term but there are a lot of recruiters and HR people that won't even look at your resume without a number next to the words "years of experience".
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 06:04 PM

HOw the hell is one suppose to get experience if one can't find a starting point.

I'm educated, even though I don't sound like I am on the forums. I do most of the time but sometimes not so much. I'm 1 inch away from working at best buy. I have a degree and I'm going to work at future shop.

I know the economy is in shambles and nobody is getting big projects, so nobody is hiring. But the energy sector is doing well and they aren't sharing the wealth!

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 08:20 AM

I know it sucks. Like I said, try looking into related fields. Maybe you can find a job that has similar skills that you would need and take that on for a time.
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 03:19 PM

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All they mostly want is assurance that if they hire you as a Java-programmer, you won't end up drinking coffee all day long.


That's a pre-requisite where I work.

Serious advice:

Don't be disheartened if you get knocked back once, twice, three or more times. Just keep pounding every company with a relevant department in the area. If you think you've expended every possibility in your area, then your best bet might be just to take any job thats going while you continue to train and learn about the new job.

I'm 21 and have found myself in our position more times than I care to remember - quite often it takes some serious manning up and just accepting you might not get what you want right now - but those bills still have to be paid. I was recently made redundant from my previous job (processing life assurance applications), but managed to get another position within the same company in their Search Engine Optimisation team, despite having no previous experience in the role.

Another spot of advice is interview technique - I'm quite lucky in that I don't shit myself until AFTER the interview. Quite often, even if you're not the best trained person in the interview, but they remember you for being friendly and affable, you're at an advantage.

Although, to be honest - everyone has their own advice. Each job has it's own processes, and each interviewer looks for different things. Just try to adapt to the interviewer and read what exactly they want.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:57 AM

thanks for the advice..
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:44 PM

How much money do you have, J? If you can afford it, volunteer for an unpaid internship. Even if they don't offer one, you'll probably get an interview just by saying you're willing to take one on. The interview in that case (no job, no internship) is all about asking your potential employer for advice. Just about everybody likes giving advice, so long as you promise not to take up too much of his time. If he's less worried than some about time, buy him coffee. People like guys who buy coffee. Remember if he's not offering a job, the conversation shouldn't be too much of you impressing him with what you know (there should be some of that) but it should be about you getting advice. So listen attentively and thank him when he's done.

Bring a resume. Have a business card (just your name and number and email are enough if you don't have a title).

That's all I got. Seriously though, if you can convince them to take on an unpaid intern, you will get a job either at the place you intern or some place they recommend you to. It just comes down to how much money you have.
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Posted 15 May 2009 - 12:20 AM

I did it. I sent an email to the CEO of a small, but growing energy company. I said I was willing to work for free as in intern. Here goes nothing!

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:32 PM

Jordan, any luck finding a new occupation yet? I'm starting to look around again because my employer seems to make it a point to try to make my own job suck worse with each passing week. I get a paycut, overtime paycut, and benefits reduction in the name of "job retention" at the same time they're doing massive renovations of the office right next to me, the other groups have large, catered meetings every day in the conference room on my floor, full time employees are getting raises, and the company is posting record profits. And I'm not even into all of the absurd managerial decisions designed solely to make my job difficult. tongue.gif

My two cents: Get your resumeé out everywhere, and ask everyone you know if anybody is hiring. Networking nets a lot more jobs than blind applications.
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Posted 15 July 2009 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (Slade @ Jul 9 2009, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Shit, dawg, have you confronted anyone about this? If you don't care too much about the job and they're screwing you over, it'll do wonders for your in-company rep.
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