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Terminator-Salvation the 4th installment of the Terminator franchise

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 11:26 AM

Its Sept 2008, and I am highly anticipating the arrival of "Terminator-Salvation". After a disappointing 3rd installment, I have high hopes for this 4th, especially knowing that Christian Bale (a fine actor in my book) is playing the role of John Connor.

This new installment abandons the "sending-a-terminator-back-in-time" premise, and focuses on the war itself. Its somewhat of a sequel, and somewhat of a prequel, and tells the story of how we got there.

anyone else cant wait for this film?
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 04:44 PM

Well now, that sounds alright. I too was dissapointed by the third film.

This one may just work out.

I was thinking earlier that these Terminator movies are probably going to end up like the "Invader Zim" episode where Zim keeps sending back the rubber piggies and altering the past further. Oh, it's comical, but not for the Terminator.
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Posted 03 September 2008 - 09:43 PM


I cannot wait! i just cant
I LOVE Christian Bale i think he'll make a great John Conner

i dont know if it was that Terminator show

on Fox or Bale's hottness but their is very
little they could do to ruin it . . . . hopefully

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Posted 04 September 2008 - 07:05 AM

I don't even think Christian Bale can save a movie that is two sequels too late to be worthwhile. But we'll see (or not) I suppose.
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Posted 04 September 2008 - 02:22 PM

I think it has potential to be okay and not much more. Maybe just because in the back of my head I will always be thinking "...but it's no T2".
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Posted 04 September 2008 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE (Heccubus @ Sep 4 2008, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe just because in the back of my head I will always be thinking "...but it's no T2".


Ah yes, this constant ringing that was with me when I saw T3.
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 11:34 AM

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Ah yes, this constant ringing that was with me when I saw T3.


T3 ruined the Terminator franchise for me. I don't expect to be entertained by #4, even though I respect Bale as an actor.
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 03:05 PM

REEALLY?!!!
Come on AC

if anyone can save a franchise
i think Bale can

he saved Batman and for that im eternally grateful
he wont let me down

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 05:13 PM

I'll go and see it just for Christian Bale.
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 05:23 PM

QUOTE (TruJade @ Oct 27 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if anyone can save a franchise
i think Bale can

he saved Batman and for that im eternally grateful
he wont let me down


Hmmm, I can't put so much confidence in Bale alone.

He's not a bad actor at all, but what must be considered by the director and writers is, "How are we going to make a film better than T2?"

Look at Robert Patrick (T1000) and he has had very limited roles in films after T2. He's really not that good an actor and he gets crappy roles on TV shows and B-movies. However, Cameron had a good story to work with and the inception of CGI morphing effects was unsurpased at the time.

CGI is overused now, especially in bad movies. Bale will do his job, and quite well may I add, but the director needs a story that is going to be credible enough for people to be engaged in it and empathize with Bale's character.

You could have the sexiest strong men you could find to be Terminators, but it's gonna be "amature night" in the theater if the script and story is crap.
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (Vesuvius @ Oct 27 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm, I can't put so much confidence in Bale alone.

He's not a bad actor at all, but what must be considered by the director and writers is, "How are we going to make a film better than T2?"

Look at Robert Patrick (T1000) and he has had very limited roles in films after T2. He's really not that good an actor and he gets crappy roles on TV shows and B-movies. However, Cameron had a good story to work with and the inception of CGI morphing effects was unsurpased at the time.

CGI is overused now, especially in bad movies. Bale will do his job, and quite well may I add, but the director needs a story that is going to be credible enough for people to be engaged in it and empathize with Bale's character.

You could have the sexiest strong men you could find to be Terminators, but it's gonna be "amature night" in the theater if the script and story is crap.

Because James Cameron pretty much owns all. He's easily one of the best action directors of all time. Without him at the helm of T3, it was pretty laughable without his craftsmanship.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE (Dr Lecter @ Oct 27 2008, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll go and see it just for Christian Bale.


Good choice

QUOTE (Lord Aquaman @ Oct 27 2008, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because James Cameron pretty much owns all. He's easily one of the best action directors of all time. Without him at the helm of T3, it was pretty laughable without his craftsmanship.


Exactly!!
i mean when i look back on T3
the only Terminator movie i haven't seen
in its entirety for obvious reasons

i think
wow that was bad, really, REALLY bad
so as i sees it T4: Salvation will be just that
the Salvation of the franchise yay!

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Posted 05 November 2008 - 11:53 PM

Director: McG
Writers: The one that did Catwoman against Jonathan Nolan which is somewhat competent, not really exceptionally skilled on a professional level. He hasn't really put out any stellar work, and if you say Dark Knight, the script is bland while Oldman, Ledger and Eckhart carry it.

All they really need to do to make it passable is lot of guns, shit exploding and things along those lines, which is somewhat out of his skill bank. This would go far better with a Michael Bay or someone that has made a competent action movie (look at his most action oriented material so far, Charlie's Angels, clumsy at best) and possibly somewhat of a visual flair and vision. McG lacks all of those and in no way is the script going to be liquid gold. As if it ever would.

Bale is good, but unless he's playing Patric Bateman, he is never going to carry a movie.

In other words, no I won't be seeing it.
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Posted 06 November 2008 - 09:09 AM

QUOTE (Icey @ Nov 5 2008, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bale is good, but unless he's playing Patric Bateman, he is never going to carry a movie.

You've never seen "Velvet Goldmine", I'd take it. He may not have carried that movie, considering the main characters were all incredibly well played, but he was still great in it. I hate the way people just default to either Batman or Batemen when discussing Bale.

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 02:13 PM

Tried finding a copy of it in Iceland, but I only found a damaged VHS tape, haven't felt compelled to pick it up again yet. So no, I haven't seen it unfortunately. I think he was amazing in the Machinist, if that means anything. I get back to Bateman with him, every single time, because he was perfect for the role, I can't read the book without seeing him, and it was the only time I've seen him in a movie where he seems to be having a good time.
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