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Yahtzee and pedophiles. He's their champion.

#1 User is offline   Lachie Dazdarian Icon

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Posted 12 May 2004 - 03:05 AM

I was browsing through some of you older articles and when I saw this I just had to react.

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Take paedophilia, for instance. People get very hysterical about paedophiles. The attitude of most tabloid newspapers ("Hey everybody, that guy's a paedophile! KILL!") doesn't help. Because paedophiles aren't, fundamentally, evil men; they've just got the 'what ye should hump' part of their brain wired up wrong. Where most men's brains think "Pretty young woman; me should hump! Small cheeky boy; me should pat head and give sweeties!", these men have it the wrong way round. That's why paedophiles are also well known for giving sweeties to pretty young women. I would imagine. Rather than lock paedos up to be bumraped forever, shouldn't we be trying to understand why their brains have gone wrong?


First of all, it's pedophiles you illiterate twat. Second of all, did you ever heard of self-control?

Pedophiles are not evil per se, but those whose identity becomes known to public are usually the ones who rape children or make child porn. So any pedophile mentioned in the news is an evil person and deserves to have his pecker cut off and stoned to death by raging mob. I'm serious.
As any priest(well, some of them) or as any person who is not getting sex regularly can control himself/herself so they can. If I don't have to rape women around so they don't have to rape children.

It's a thing of choice. They CHOOSE to rape children. They MUST die.

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Posted 12 May 2004 - 03:17 AM

It's spelt paedophiles.

Also, how do you know what's going on inside their heads? Whether it's a case of the person giving into temptation, or lacking a conscience entirely, it still makes no sense to just lock them up - how is that helping the situation?

The priests make a good example - do you suppose they all went into the job with the idea of finding their dream choirboy? Of course not - they clearly experienced a drive they couldn't deny, and most likely couldn't explain why they did what they did.
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 03:38 AM

Why don't you show sources where it's spelt paedophiles and I'll give you sources where it's spelt pedophiles and we'll see who will win.

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Also, how do you know what's going on inside their heads? Whether it's a case of the person giving into temptation, or lacking a conscience entirely, it still makes no sense to just lock them up - how is that helping the situation?


Oh, I can guess what is going on in ther heads. And many psychologists confirmed this. They want to feel superior to someone. That's the only thing which will make them feel complete. That's it. Nothing more. Lindsay Ashford and his shit won't fool me.

It makes sense to cut peckers of child rapists.

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Of course not - they clearly experienced a drive they couldn't deny, and most likely couldn't explain why they did what they did.


I can't belive you are defending those freaks. Do they have any character at all? They have choosen to rape those children. CHOOSEN! STONE THEM DO DEATH!!!
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 04:14 AM

Ha! First of all it's "heard of" not "head of"!
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 04:25 AM

I don't know what are you talking about.

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Post icon  Posted 12 May 2004 - 06:16 AM

Lachie, you do know that Yahtzee is not from the U.S., and therefore may spell a little differently?

Now...the only mystery that remains to me is the question of "WHY are you still here?"


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First of all, it's pedophiles you illiterate twat.


Insulting the leader of the forum. Yay. Are you trying to make us lose all respect for you? I would imagine the general reason for us all being on this forum is our affection for Yahtzee. Think before you post, unless your true intentions actually are to make a complete fool of yourself.
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 07:36 AM

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Insulting the leader of the forum. Yay. Are you trying to make us lose all respect for you?


You have respect for me?

Don't.

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I would imagine the general reason for us all being on this forum is our affection for Yahtzee. Think before you post, unless your true intentions actually are to make a complete fool of yourself.


Look, he is usually funny. But being funny doesn't make you a good or wise person. I come here for a good laugh. And I like you nerd ponces. You are fun.


The insult was a joke. I knew about two spelling versions of pedophilia.
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 09:14 AM

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And I like you nerd ponces. You are fun.

Do you like making enemies? You can't even complement us without calling us ponces. And how about letting Yahtz have his opinion? I don't care how wrong you think it is, it's really very unsociable to pick holes like this.
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 11:13 AM

I think this is part of a larger discussion: should people who commit crimes or disobey the social contract in some extreme way be punished or should we attempt to understand and possibly rehabilitate them psychologically? Anyone who would actually do something so damaging is clearly not a well person, but on the other hand, they are also dangerous and should, arguably, be kept locked up if only for the safety of everyone else. Still, one wonders-- is/should imprisonment about punishment, isolation, or rehabilitation?

People are coming into the argument with different ideas about the above, but it's difficult to discuss this sort of thing rationally when it's tangled up in a highly emotional issue like rape and/or child abuse. But we can all agree that this is wrong, and still have differing opinions on how to handle violators.

It's also possible that nobody cares about having this discussion and they're just provoked by the controversial stance of the first poster (challenging Yahtzee is, as has been pointed out, certainly controversial in the FR forum). In this case, I think the best course of action is to ignore this thread.

I apologize for barging in on Yahtzee's forum with my touchy-feely ways, but now that it's part of Chefelf's night life, I feel like it's my right and privilege!
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 11:34 AM

It'd be quite interesting to see Yahtzee's response to all this...
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 11:47 AM

*steeples fingers, awaits...*

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The insult was a joke. I knew about two spelling versions of pedophilia.

Thereby destroying any reason to have started such a thread in the first place. Nothing in that first post would indicate that you were joking. If that's joking, I would desperately fear getting into a verbal debate with you.
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 02:40 PM

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Posted 12 May 2004 - 03:12 PM

Oh....well fair enough.
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Posted 12 May 2004 - 03:20 PM

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Posted 12 May 2004 - 03:56 PM

Oh, I think everyone's been championing me pretty well so far, but I guess I should say this:

Life is not a Tintin book. There is no such thing as a person who is inherently evil, who do what we consider to be immoral just for the sake of being a bad person. Everyone who breaks the law in whatever way in some way justifies their actions to themselves. So, when I hear of paedophiles, or anyone who has done something particularly heinous, I don't ask that they be punished and forgotten, I ask that they be examined so that we know what caused his or her lapse in moral code.

Something Awful did an article recently showcasing posts in paedophile forums. They discussed things we consider abhorrent with no sense of shame whatsoever, bemoaning the way society persecuted them. It was repulsive, but it underlined for me that these people are not hand-wringing demons, but humans like anyone else with major psychological issues. The current law system just isn't well-suited for reform.
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