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Jack Bauer made me do it The Bushies argument for torture

#16 User is offline   J m HofMarN Icon

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Posted 15 August 2008 - 01:22 AM

If you believe that your quotes prove something, feel free to say so. I stated that people were being arrested for being Muslims. You asked how many people had been arrested for this in one country, then when that number turned out to be low, you seemed to believe that it vindicated your argument that this was a rare occurence globally (it's not.) I could say that food poisoning occurs often in global restaurants, and then you'd ask how often it happened at the McDonalds down the street from me, and when I answered you'd claim that this low number denied the possibility of a larger problem. It doesn't work that way.

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When Clinton was bombing 3 separate Serb states into oblivion, the newspapers were writing about the Serb Orthodox Church in America encouraging violence against the state.


Whatcha?

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The dehumanization of Serbs lasts even today while the dehumanization of Iraqis lasted until 2003 (though the paranoia still lingers.)


Why are we talking about Serbs or even Iraqis for that matter? How is saying that the agents of a government we're bombing might be plotting against us in any way dehumanizing them? How many Serbian churches are in the US anyhow, and how can they be told apart from the rest of the Eastern Orthodox faith to be made subject to dehumanization?

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Of course this is not their fault since their paranoia and fears are a left over mentality of the Cold War (and WW2) when all enemies fit into one category.


Why do you keep harping on this cold war leftovers or cold leftover war crap? How is fear a leftover of the cold war? How can paranoia over Muslim nations who fought the Russians be related to fear of the Soviets? Does America have a large strategic fear reserve I'm not aware of?

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I don't know about you but I have never advocated that homosexuals, for any reason, be cut out of their mother's womb and thrown into a bin.
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Posted 16 August 2008 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE (Deucaon @ Aug 15 2008, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When Bush I was bombing/invading Iraq, the newspapers were writing about Iraqi sleeper agents ready to blow up American skyscrapers.


Ok, bub. Which is it. Were you or Bush bombing/invading Iraq? And no, I don't believe you ARE Bush because with all of your nonsense, you're still more coherent than him. Come on; out with it.
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Posted 20 August 2008 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (Slade @ Aug 17 2008, 04:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, bub. Which is it. Were you or Bush bombing/invading Iraq? And no, I don't believe you ARE Bush because with all of your nonsense, you're still more coherent than him. Come on; out with it.


Despite your attempt to insult me, I have decided to sig this because it is LULZ worthy.
"I felt insulted until I realized that the people trying to mock me were the same intellectual titans who claimed that people would be thrown out of skyscrapers and feudalism would be re-institutionalized if service cartels don't keep getting political favors and regulations are cut down to only a few thousand pages worth, that being able to take a walk in the park is worth driving your nation's economy into the ground, that sexual orientation is a choice that can be changed at a whim, that problems caused by having institutions can be solved by introducing more institutions or strengthening the existing ones that are causing the problems, and many more profound pearls of wisdom. I no longer feel insulted because I now feel grateful for being alive and witnessing such deep conclusions from my fellows."
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Posted 20 August 2008 - 08:15 PM

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You're great at quoting people, especially yourself, but I see very little debate from you.
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I don't know about you but I have never advocated that homosexuals, for any reason, be cut out of their mother's womb and thrown into a bin.
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