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Anyone seen the animated LOTR features?

#1 Lord Aquaman

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 07:39 PM

I've seen the Ralph Bakshi animated version of "Lord of the Rings" (which covers most of the first two books) but I've yet to see the animated version of "The Hobbit" and "Return of the King".

And speaking of "The Hobbit", should they make "The Hobbit" as a live action film?

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 08:42 PM

If it's the 1978 version your talking about, yes. I've seen it. If they decide to make another animated version (I won't be a bit suprised if they do), I'm going to get pissed.

When they come out with an weekly cartoon of LOTR, I then will jump off the roof of my house. (I say 'when' because I KNOW they'll eventually come out with a cartoon.)

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 10:38 PM

I remember when I was a little kid, my oldest brother had The Hobbit on tape. The thing always freaked the hell out of me because I never knew what it was, and to this day, I still think that animation is creepy. I even saw the animated Return of the King on Pay Per View after The Two Towers came out and being creeped out by that!

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 03:06 AM

Never seen the animated versions, but I have seen a stage performance of The Hobbit. The used puppets, with the puppeteers walking behind in black clothes. I think it was a Japanese style of puppetry. Was quite interesting.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 05:53 AM

Yes, the 1978 version. The film was a bit boring and the animation crude at times, but it wasn't completely uninteresting. The rigidness of the animation and the blending of it with live action folk actually helped give the film an eerie atmosphere.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 07:52 AM

1978? No, I saw this back in about 1999 or so. Was going through Australia. No animation at all, it was all on stage, in a proper theatre.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 10:08 AM

Nobody's seen the Rankin Bass Hobbit or Return of the King? Man, they are a HOOT. A HOOT, I tell you.

Warning: They are not for people who are invested in the sanctity of Lord of the Rings as a spiritual or artistic experience.

Caution: Contains wobbly-voiced folk singing.

FYI: HOOOOT!

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 10:34 AM

QUOTE (Laura @ Dec 18 2004, 10:08 AM)

Caution: Contains wobbly-voiced folk singing.

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And it is sung by this man.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:28 PM

You can find a scene-by-scene critique of Ralph Bakshi's 'Lord of the Rings' here. Warning: while very funny, it's also extremely vicious.

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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?

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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 07:14 PM

its funny...

it's a bit more true to the books in some scenes, but then there are some things that are just silly...

narsil seems to have less than an inch off the end missing, making you wonder why the'd get it reforged...

the balrog is terrible, the orcs are wiered... like gas masks or somehing...

what's interesting is the same omission of characters...
Legolas replaces Glorfindel instead of Arwen...
no tom bombadil, farmer maggot, or the elves passing through to the grey havens (although the PJ version had the elves passing through but sam and frodo don't interact with them, and farmer maggot has a breif chat with a ringwraith but not like it was in the books)...

galdreils response to the ring is quite giddy and amusingly odd...

anthony daniels plays legolas, and john hurt plays aragorn...
i like having more barliman...

and the full version of the " a spy of the enemy " conversation about strider...

and the ringwraith breath attack in the streets of bree

i hate the voice over at the end of helms deep:
"and the people of middle earth were never bothered again"
like seriously?

and gollum sounds like a creepy old queen looking for some hobbit action...

however there is some geat animated experimentalism, but it's too on focus, dating it badly...

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 12:55 AM

Helena, thanks for the link, it seems good fun and thoroughly to my taste, beause I hated the Animated Version. I only got to see it two years ago...

Aragorn and Boromir in skirts... Boromir with horns. Gandalf limping... Aruman/Saurman... Ringwraiths not being able to control their horses...

I hated it.

But... If you look closely, you'll see that PJ borrowed heavily from the animated version!!
If you look closely - the whole scene where hobbits are hiding under the root of a tree from the Nazgul is almost exactly the same as in Animated verions. And look at Gandal's hat - exactly the same and his limping, too!

And the 70s hair mentioned in the review - well, if anything is abundant in LOTR is the hair - wet-perm look

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 09:46 AM

I wasn't aware that Gandalf limped. But I did find myself asking every five seconds "Where are Aragorn and Boromir's pants?" One wonders what possessed Ralph Bakshi to do Boromir as a viking...

Rotoscoping was an interesting technique, but ultimately Bakshi never quite got it to work. For more fun with rotoscoping, subject yourself to "American Pop", "Coonskin" and "Felix the Cat".

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 11:25 AM

QUOTE (Chefelf @ Dec 18 2004, 10:34 AM)

And it is sung by this man.

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I always thought he was Orson Bean.

(South Park: Lemikins song comes to mind. "the greatest adventure...")

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has ANYONE heard Leonard Nimoy sing "the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins?". Gosh, I'd love to find that album it came from.

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 06:35 PM

I love Lemiwinks...Not every gerbil can find his way out of a gay man's ass, only the Gerbil King is capable of such a feat!

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 07:48 PM

Lemiwinks. that's right.

Yes. And how his prior comrades were all so chivalrous, quickly urging him on. It was SO good. A happy ending for all the kingdom.