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#1 User is offline   David-kyo Icon

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 12:29 PM

http://www.escapistm...mash-Bros-Brawl

Another game I couldn't give two shits about, but the review was funny.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 01:01 PM

Finally, Yahtzee reviews a game I've actually played...I've been waiting for this one though. I was watching a playthrough of the 1213 games on Youtube, and the bugger playing them kept ranting off about how he 'Lost all respect for Yahtzee' because he heard he didn't like SSB. It'll be interesting to see how many fanboys Yahtzee pissed off with this one.

And I have to say, I do enjoy the SSB series. They are really good party games because like Yahtzee pointed out, there isn't a lot of skill required in playing them.

I hate the games were you have the super secret twelve button long combo that delivers instant death, because I'm always the person that's pulling shit out of their ass that gets completely owned by someone who knows what they're doing. SSB is pretty basic, so unless you totally suck ass at the game you'll atleast get in a few kills, and besides, who doesn't like having showdown matches between Link and Mario to prove once and for all who is the best Nintendo character.

Unfortunantly University has kept me from playing my Wii, so I've only played Brawl a bit since it came out. From what I have played though, it wasn't a great big leap from Melee, so I can understand the 'Ehh' from Yahtzee and his pals. Really I think the true saving grace of Brawl is the Subspace Emissary Mode (Which I haven't been able to play but it looks pretty cool, except the final boss is a bit 'WTF?').

Melee was a step-up from the first SSB, but Brawl just really isn't that different from it's predessesor. In that sense it's almost like an expansion pack by including new characters and levels. That doesn't mean I won't get it however, it just means that I wasn't one of the extreme Nintendo fans that was salivating infront of their computer screen waiting for every new update of the game (As long as they have Link, I'm happy).

And the inclusion of Snake and Sonic frightened me some. It seems like such a blatant attempt at fanservice that I'm a little worried about the direction of the series...

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (Van Integral @ Apr 23 2008, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finally, Yahtzee reviews a game I've actually played...I've been waiting for this one though. I was watching a playthrough of the 1213 games on Youtube, and the bugger playing them kept ranting off about how he 'Lost all respect for Yahtzee' because he heard he didn't like SSB. It'll be interesting to see how many fanboys Yahtzee pissed off with this one.

Like they matter at all. If you hate someone 'cos he or she doesn't enjoy a particular game as much as you do, then you deserve to be called a prat.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 01:49 PM

Who is Marth? Marth is the only character I'm good at, because I don't play the game and it's so hard for me to land a blow that when I finally DO it's gratifying to be playing as a guy who can send everyone flying right across the map with one hit.

There. My own contribution to Yahtzee's continuing suffering. Suffer damn you!!

Ya know, I have a theory that a good portion of the strength of these reviews is that they always end strong. Yahtzee's had the occational joke that just went over my head or otherwise just fell flat for me, but I never dwelt on them because when the ending hits like a sock on the nose that tended to be what I go away remembering.

This was one of his stronger endings. If there is one thing Yahtzee does extremely well, it is spew hate at those who love him, but there was a point to it this time. Was that a game like Brawl is really reviewer-proof because Nintendo's dedicated army of willing love-slaves would buy it no matter what, were planning to buy it before it was ever announced, and will go on buying it for as long as Nintendo stays in business.

And that seems to be Yahtzee's greatest peeve: blind obedience, thoughtless worship, anything that involves the person in question not thinking for themselves.

I have to disagree with him on his evaluation of the game's controls though: I am a Class-A button masher (Soul Caliber is my friend!) and I couldn't stay alive for more then around ten seconds in that damned game.

Yes, we all know That Guy. All my gamer friends are That Guy when it comes to Smo-Bro. That's why I ask if we can play Rock Band instead.

P.S I am officially the only sad-sack on the planet who cannot do that damned rrrrrrrrrrrrrrolling the rrrrrrrrrrrrrrs thing. Arg. Hate.

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 01:58 PM

What can I say? He's the best you can find and every time he's getting better (though sillie....Not lamer--still cool).

Saved me from buying a Wii and the game.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 01:59 PM

QUOTE (David-kyo @ Apr 23 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like they matter at all. If you hate someone 'cos he or she doesn't enjoy a particular game as much as you do, then you deserve to be called a prat.


Exactly. I think the thing people forget when they watch Yahtzee's reviews is that Yahtzee isn't standing over their shoulder at the video game store swatting games out of their hands. Just because he dislikes a game doesn't mean that he's taking away your right to play it, it just means he's trying to tell you about some of the things in the game he disliked or found irritable.

The funny thing is too, the username of the person on Youtube who was complaining about Yahtzee is registered member of the forums here too, which probably means they're the same person...


And was anyone else caught off guard by Yahtzee rolling his r's in this video? Maybe it was just because I was listening through headphones, but I seriously jumped at that part.

EDIT: DreamerM, I can't roll my r's either, which is quite disgraceful for a Canadian (What with Tim Horton's and the whole "Rrrrroll up the Rrriim" thing)

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 02:04 PM

I enjoyed the Beano reference, nice to be reminded that british comics are not dead after all, although the reference would have been more apt if it was Andy Capp instead.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 02:05 PM

Does anyone think that Yahtzee is getting more ornery, or more busy?
He just in general seems more pissed off at his fan base.

I guess I'm referencing the most recent update on his cite, and the general air of "Fuck all of you" to his SSBB review.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 02:13 PM

I can stretch my Rs quite far and hard. Hurray for me, I guess. I can benefit from many things.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 02:40 PM

HA! He mentioned the Beano! I love knowing that the world at large completely misses that reference yet plays such a large part in so many childhoods.

Yahtzee had some interesting points this time around.

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 02:42 PM

Yahtzee said the game was a button masher. Did something go horribly wrong when Nintendo was making this game? Because speaking as the guy who spent 15 years practicing and learning every nuance in the first two (SSB and SSBM), I can say with certainty that the only time I lose is when I'm fighting someone better. (Which incidentally, doesn't happens.)

Since Yahtzee can't possibly suck at any game, I'm just going to assume that Nintendo completely blundered through this game from start to finish, and that this game bears absolutely no resemblance to it's two predecessors. I suggest that he play on of the former games in the franchise where majority of his criticism wont apply.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 02:57 PM

Even though I don't see why anybody should care, here's my experience with this game (and review):

I played Melee a LOT. There are a lot of little nuances that can be used to gain advantages against your foes, and an experienced Melee player can seriously dominate other, less practiced players.

I've only ever played Brawl in a Best Buy and only for a few matches as Sonic. The only setup available was Wiimote + Nunchuk (UGH!) and it was pretty fun. I didn't really get to check to see if those little nuances were still in the new game (since I didn't have a Gamecube controller available) but I can see how I would like it.

Having said that, I didn't really think this week's review stood out. Maybe it was Yahtzee not really wanting to review it in the first place (in which case -- STOP BUGGING HIM, PEOPLE! LET HIM PICK!) or maybe it was just a "blah" week for him. Anyway, I agreed with the points he made but it didn't come across as humorous as, say, the Assassin's Creed (especially the Yakkety Sax at the end) or Bioshock reviews.

I should also point out that I AM "that guy", depending on the game. And you're a complete dillhole if you get frustrated and refuse to play against me because of it.
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Posted 23 April 2008 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE (Van Integral @ Apr 23 2008, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finally, Yahtzee reviews a game I've actually played...I've been waiting for this one though. I was watching a playthrough of the 1213 games on Youtube, and the bugger playing them kept ranting off about how he 'Lost all respect for Yahtzee' because he heard he didn't like SSB. It'll be interesting to see how many fanboys Yahtzee pissed off with this one.

And I have to say, I do enjoy the SSB series. They are really good party games because like Yahtzee pointed out, there isn't a lot of skill required in playing them.

I hate the games were you have the super secret twelve button long combo that delivers instant death, because I'm always the person that's pulling shit out of their ass that gets completely owned by someone who knows what they're doing. SSB is pretty basic, so unless you totally suck ass at the game you'll atleast get in a few kills, and besides, who doesn't like having showdown matches between Link and Mario to prove once and for all who is the best Nintendo character.

Unfortunantly University has kept me from playing my Wii, so I've only played Brawl a bit since it came out. From what I have played though, it wasn't a great big leap from Melee, so I can understand the 'Ehh' from Yahtzee and his pals. Really I think the true saving grace of Brawl is the Subspace Emissary Mode (Which I haven't been able to play but it looks pretty cool, except the final boss is a bit 'WTF?').

Melee was a step-up from the first SSB, but Brawl just really isn't that different from it's predessesor. In that sense it's almost like an expansion pack by including new characters and levels. That doesn't mean I won't get it however, it just means that I wasn't one of the extreme Nintendo fans that was salivating infront of their computer screen waiting for every new update of the game (As long as they have Link, I'm happy).

And the inclusion of Snake and Sonic frightened me some. It seems like such a blatant attempt at fanservice that I'm a little worried about the direction of the series...


Wow, I never thought with just 10 views on that video I would EVER see a comment about it. I wasn't actually being serious, you know. I was a bit pissed at the "fanboys only" rating but not actually that far. I guess I fail at subtlety. Anyway, the most annoying part of the review was that he(or at least everyone on the first page of comments) considers anyone who simply LIKES it a fanboy...
"Really I think the true saving grace of Brawl is the Subspace Emissary Mode " No. it sucked penis. It's the thing that every reviewer that gave the game less than 6/10 focused on completely(along with unlockables) I do think unlockables can go die. Especialy when your brother gets pissed off because your map where it's impossible to leave the screen, therefore just a demonstration on how fast you can go keeps ending up in random selection, meaning that you have to unlock ALL THE MAPS to make it stop doing that. He ended up deleting all the maps because I COULDN'T UNLOCK THEM ALL IN TIME. Yes, unlockables can go suck a dick but the game doesn't suck. It's actually pretty good if you have someone else to play with. Also, it's not really like other fighting games at all. I fucking hate fighting games, but like earthbound with RPGs, this is an AWESOME exception. When reading the comments on the video I had to check the title to make sure it WAS SSBB because there was lots of pulled-out-of-my-ass shit (such as calling it a button masher) I would fucking LOVE to go more in-depth on this but it's a 3 inch wall of text, go to IGN or something.

Really, if I hated him that much why the fuck did I continue playing his game?

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 03:14 PM

QUOTE (David-kyo @ Apr 23 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like they matter at all. If you hate someone 'cos he or she doesn't enjoy a particular game as much as you do, then you deserve to be called a prat.

Thank you for pointing out I should NEVER attempt to be subtle again... I will gladly take this advice and not look like a fucking idiot in the future.
THen again, I wrote a super-short trilby porn... thing so I guess you can't go back from that point.
Or getting involved in stupid nonexistant shit on youtube.
Or returning to forums I'm banned from on a train of 10 alts to troll the fuck out of them.
Or probably anything I did before 12 including the eally wierd fucked up thing I don't want to talk about and you don't want to hear.
QUOTE (Van Integral @ Apr 23 2008, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. I think the thing people forget when they watch Yahtzee's reviews is that Yahtzee isn't standing over their shoulder at the video game store swatting games out of their hands. Just because he dislikes a game doesn't mean that he's taking away your right to play it, it just means he's trying to tell you about some of the things in the game he disliked or found irritable.

The funny thing is too, the username of the person on Youtube who was complaining about Yahtzee is registered member of the forums here too, which probably means they're the same person...


And was anyone else caught off guard by Yahtzee rolling his r's in this video? Maybe it was just because I was listening through headphones, but I seriously jumped at that part.

EDIT: DreamerM, I can't roll my r's either, which is quite disgraceful for a Canadian (What with Tim Horton's and the whole "Rrrrroll up the Rrriim" thing)

Fuck, you found me out, I am the exact same person and David up there at the top knows me very well for the sins against this forum I have done in the past. But come on! THe series was lacking perverted fanfiction!

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 03:59 PM

Well, I didn't know it was you, I was speaking in general terms.
QUOTE (Battlefrank @ Apr 23 2008, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
David (...) at the top

Aaaand dontcha forget about that. shifty.gif
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