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Posted 18 February 2008 - 06:07 PM

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Monday, February 11, 2008

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is reminding law-enforcement officials of the increased use of female suicide bombers worldwide, and warning that women terrorists might hide explosives in devices “that mimic the look of a pregnant woman.”

The unclassified DHS threat assessment, released Monday and obtained by NBC News, shows photographs of “pregnancy prosthetics,” hollowed-out devices that could hold explosive devices. The report says “female suicide bombers have used devices that make them appear pregnant to hide explosive devices.”

The DHS report states that terrorists are using female bombers more frequently, in part because these attacks generate “more widespread media exposure.” It adds: “Continued use of female suicide bombers-the most recent example being a 3 February 2008 attack at the main railway station in Colombo, Sri Lanka-indicates that terrorists judge this tactic as effective in increasing defenses and thwarting security measures.”

The report, marked “For Official Use Only,” is one of dozens of threat assessments issued jointly throughout the year by DHS and the FBI. The authors are quick to mention that there’s no immediate threat to the U.S.

“DHS and the FBI have no specific, credible intelligence indicating that terrorist organizations intend to utilize female suicide bombers against targets in the Homeland,” they write.

The report ticks off several recent attacks by women bombers in Iraq and Sri Lanka, and the recruitment of female suicide bombers in Chechnya, India, Pakistan, the Palestinian territories and Turkey.

Why the increase in women bombers? “DHS and the FBI assess that female suicide bombers may have an advantage over their male counterparts in accessing targets. The means to conduct a suicide attack vary widely, but a key element in maximizing the lethality of a suicide bombing is the bomber’s ability to get close to the target,” the report states. “Female suicide bombers may carry explosives devices in a backpack, briefcase, or purse, or hidden in an article of clothing worn close to the body, such as a vest, belt, long socks, or jacket.”

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THanks to JMHoFmArn for thIs aRticlE


Well this brings up a few questions...

1. If, in Islam, being born a woman is such an offence to Allah, what promise convinces a women to kill herself in tha name of the religion that took her clitoris and dignity?

2. Why aren't we using this methode to smuggle duty free alcohol and cuban cigars?

3. So, like liquid, are we just going to ban pregnant women from flying?

4. Does she get 17 virgins in the afterlife? (assuming there is one for women)

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Posted 18 February 2008 - 07:29 PM

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4. Does she get 17 virgins in the afterlife? (assuming there is one for women)


The bad thing about this is that virgin men are really bad in bed. That’s assuming she isn’t one of the virgins in which case she’ll be raped for all eternity.
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:24 PM

Once more, we should investigate what makes a person a suicide bomber. We should begin by looking outside the US Stae Department's box and imagine motives not exclusively based on religion.
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 10:00 PM

Examine the cause of problems? Yet more wishy washy liberal nonsense. No. Problems neat treatments. Like when I had sex with a prostitute with aids and then noticed I kept getting sick, so I went and picked up some nyquil. That solves the problem.

So clearly the thing to do is simply to knock experimentaly on pregnant women's stomachs to see if they're hollow. No special equipment is even required for this special test. That solves the immediate problem, and thats all we need to worry about until the DHS sends up the next memo about terrorists who might be using fake terrorists to distract us from the real terrorists who are concealing bombs in their urethras OMG!

OK I managed to keep my sarcastic wit through most of this article but at this point outrage took over:

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I have a special message to anyone who wants to search a woman's fugging socks for bombs: Cram it up your ass, sissy and stop watching Saving Private Ryan. I wonder why they didnt warn that Islamic men might dress as women and hide explosives in their fake boobs. I also wonder why that hasn't been made into a film where Eddie Murphey or Will Smith puts on a fat suit.

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See, this is why the US is better than the rest of the world. Even when we're not refering to our country directly by name we still capitalize it. Do Australians or Canadians go about talking about "The Homeland"? I don't think so. All we need to gain the title of rockinest country ever is to add "The Glorious Homeland"

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Posted 18 February 2008 - 10:29 PM

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So clearly the thing to do is simply to knock experimentaly on pregnant women's stomachs to see if they're hollow. No special equipment is even required for this special test.


Or start equipping airports with ultrasound machines.

"Ma'am, I'm going to have to scan the contents of your uterus; please step behind the curtain so I can smear this jelly all over your abdomen."
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 04:05 AM

This article just reminds me of Arrested Development. I miss that show.

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Do Australians or Canadians go about talking about "The Homeland"? I don't think so.

We do capitalise the bastardisation of the nations name, Oz, though.
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 06:44 AM

Nobody told us you were from "Oz"... But Wizard of Oz jokes are rather stale, so I guess it doesn't matter.

"The Homeland" is stupid jingoist nonsense as far as I'm concerned, but we should do invasive surgery on pregnant looking women, just to be safe. We can even have pools going with other people in line at security about whether the women are with child or just fat, and we can donate the earnings to some charity.
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 07:26 AM

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Once more, we should investigate what makes a person a suicide bomber. We should begin by looking outside the US Stae Department's box and imagine motives not exclusively based on religion.


Not that I'm one to agree with the US state department on anything but what other reason could there possibly be? No one who doesn’t believe in an afterlife is going to do a suicide bombing. What would be the point in doing it for political aims if you'll be dead should it actually succeed?

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I wonder why they didnt warn that Islamic men might dress as women and hide explosives in their fake boobs.

See, this is why the US is better than the rest of the world. Even when we're not refering to our country directly by name we still capitalize it. Do Australians or Canadians go about talking about "The Homeland"? I don't think so. All we need to gain the title of rockinest country ever is to add "The Glorious Homeland"


Exactly they don’t even need women to do this since Muslims are the only people in the world allowed to wear masks everywhere they go why don’t they stick to their own rules and only use men as combatants?

Also Russia has completely topped you guys on the cool name thing "FOR THE MOTHERLAND!!", also my country is so great we even put great in the title to tell you all how great it is.

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 08:52 AM

Don't worry. We call you "Little Britain" over here. No, not really. Nobody really cares as far as I know.

It takes a whole lot more than a belief in an afterlife to commit murders and suicides. Yes, the religious leaders endorsing it certainly helps, but these are people that are built up with fervor and hate, left in positions where they're taught that it is acceptable and there isn't an alternative, or it's a necessary and noble thing. And to toally burst your bubble, many non-religious people have done the murder-suicide thing. Maybe not bombings as much, and I lack sources for murder-suicides that are politically related in general, but theese events certainly happen. Recent school shootings come to mind.

I could just as easily say people who don't believe in an afterlife are more likely to do this sort of thing because they know they'll not face any consequences once they are dead. Civ, feel free to reiterate what I've said in more sophisticated and convincing terms. tongue.gif

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 10:16 AM

Think of it like the Black Death. The disease may be the agent of destruction, but it isn't the vector; the fleas living on the rats that came into contact with humans are.

The trouble with the "War on Terror" is that it's simply fueling the flames, because ideological battles can't be won by conventional means. Somebody's a bit upset that his family was killed in the crossfire when some Marines came storming into town, or whatever, so when somebody tells him that the U.S. is the enemy and he needs to stand up and fight, he's more-or-less of the disposition to agree. The only way to stop that from happening is to win peoples' hearts and minds over to our side, which it's pretty obvious that we're not doing very well, so that they won't want to listen to these nutjobs who tell them to strap on bombs and blow themselves up.

Muslim terrorists are more like a symptom of the real problem, which is that there are so many people out there who have reasons to hate us. An idea is more dangerous than a hydrogen bomb.
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 10:43 AM

Also, many times the women in these groups are brought up their whole lives to be so wholly subservient to men, that they could just have been told, here, hide this in your robes and go stand over there - and then they go and do it, probably fully aware of what's about to happen, but they don't have a choice, at least they don't think they do.
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 05:34 PM

Fatherland Security?

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Once more, we should investigate what makes a person a suicide bomber. We should begin by looking outside the US Stae Department's box and imagine motives not exclusively based on religion.


Nope. No good. Too many options to choose from. Best just to continue with the winning formula.

Liquid bomb = ban liquids.
Fake pregnant women = ban pregnant women
gun violence = ban video games
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 06:53 PM

More Glorious Homeland Security Triuphantness:

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Luaipou Futi and a nurse banged on a locked door at Honolulu International Airport Friday morning and begged for medical help for Futi's 14-day-old son, who had flown here from American Samoa for heart surgery and was becoming distressed in the warm room.

According to Futi's attorney, from the other side of the door, the women heard voices telling them to remain calm.

After 30 minutes in the room, Futi, her son, Michael Tony Futi, and the traveling nurse, Arizona Veavea, were released, attorney Rick Fried said.

City paramedics took Michael to Kaiser Permanente's Moana-lua Medical Center, but he died later that morning. Emergency Services Department officials said they received a call at 6:10 a.m. and the child was taken to Kaiser Moanalua in critical condition.

Autopsy results are pending.

At Fried's Bishop Street offices yesterday, Futi spoke through a translator, Simamao Nofoa, who said, "She was so happy — the minute she got on that plane — because she knew her baby was coming here ... They were the first ones out of the plane. If they would let them come immediately, her baby would have still been here. Her son would have still been alive. She's heartbroken. She can't eat. She can't sleep. ... She's traumatized."

It should have only taken 10 to 15 minutes to get Michael from the airport to Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children, where he was scheduled to be hospitalized on Friday and examined for a probable heart operation, Fried said.

But immigration officials detained Michael, his mother and Veavea, apparently believing there was "some problem with the visa waiver form for the mother," Fried said. In fact, Fried said, all the travel documents were in order.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials declined comment yesterday.

DOCUMENTS DISPLAYED

Fried showed the media documents yesterday, including one from U.S. Customs and Border Protection with the word "APPROVAL" in large type and a handwritten note that "Luaipou Futi may travel and stay for duration of sons (sic) treatment."

While in the Homeland Security room, "Arizona was very concerned and pacing back and forth, wondering when they were coming," Fried said. "After about 30 minutes in this warm, locked room, the baby starts to have problems with his oxygen. ... We're way past the time when this baby would have been in good hands at Kapi'olani. ... The door is locked. They cannot get out."

When they were first detained, Veavea, who speaks fluent English, explained to Homeland Security officials that Michael needed to get medical treatment, the lawyer said, and suggested that officials release her and Michael.

But officials detained all of them.

"Even if they had a valid cause for holding the mother of the baby ... there is absolutely no basis for holding the baby or the baby's nurse, who traveled with no luggage," Fried said, adding "the baby and the nurse are naturalized American citizens and have a U.S. passport."

Yesterday, Fried served notice with the federal government that he intends to file a lawsuit over Michael's death.

Jim Kosciuk, spokesman for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection office in Honolulu, declined to respond to Fried's account of Michael's death yesterday.

"With any potential legal action or pending litigation, we don't make comments," Kosciuk said.

UNEXPECTED BABY

Michael was the fourth child of Tony, 40, and Luaipou Futi, 38, who have two teenagers and adopted a third child when they thought they could no longer conceive.

Then Michael was born by Caesarean section on Jan. 25.

"Several days later, it was noticed that there was a heart murmur. ... The baby had a hole in his heart. (Surgery to repair the defect) is not available to be performed in Samoa," Fried said.

Doctors in American Samoa told Fried that with proper medical care he was expected to live a long life, he said.

"The long-term prognosis for this baby was good."

Officials at Lyndon B. Johnson Hospital in American Samoa had made arrangements for Michael to be hospitalized at Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children, Fried said.

Futi, her son and Veavea arrived around 5:30 a.m. Friday morning after a nearly five-hour Hawaiian Airlines flight, he said.

During the flight, the boy was hooked up to an oxygen tank.

Later, inside the locked room, Michael's condition worsened. Futi and Veavea began screaming to call 911, Fried said, "and the people outside are saying, 'Stay calm, relax.' "

After another five minutes, the door opened and someone helped perform cardiopulmonary resuscitation on the baby, he said.

Another 10 minutes passed before paramedics arrived, he said, and eight minutes later they took Michael to the medical center.

"By then, it was probably too late to help," Fried said. "We had a delay of probably an hour when this baby should have left the airport. It's our position that the child clearly would have been in good shape at the time it would have been able to arrive. Why these people kept all three of them ... is just something we'll have to get into."

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Yep... doing great job there. Keeping them dangerous babies out of the country.
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 06:56 PM

I think that counts as manslaughter.
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 08:56 PM

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