Additions to reasons why you should hate episode2 Technical inconsistencies
#46
Posted 06 May 2004 - 09:29 PM
Half his shit is even pilfered from other movies. STARWARS was just your run of the mill knight rescues the princess and slays the dragon shpeal.
ESB was good because it was dark
ROTJ had ups and downs. But I still liked it. The last battle between father and son was emotionally moving
ESB was good because it was dark
ROTJ had ups and downs. But I still liked it. The last battle between father and son was emotionally moving
Oh SMEG. What the smeggity smegs has smeggins done? He smeggin killed me. - Lister of Smeg, space bum
#47
Posted 06 May 2004 - 09:53 PM
QUOTE (Jordan @ May 6 2004, 09:25 PM)
All the indian jones movies sucked, ESB and Starwars were good, ROTJ was ok. Why is Lucas so successful?
Star Wars was an excellent movie to start this story. It was very well done and while the story was not the most original the setting of this story certainly was. Empire improved on what had come before by setting the stage for the finale. We were let down a little in that finale, but were entertained on the most part.
Raiders of the Losk Arc does not suck. It is a fantastic film.
Temple of Doom does suck.
Last Crusade does not reach the level of Raiders, but it is miles above Temple.
Luminous beings are we... not this crude matter.
Yoda
Yoda
#50
Posted 07 May 2004 - 12:46 AM
QUOTE (Despondent @ May 6 2004, 10:32 PM)
add up your repeat viewings of lucas films. multiply that by untold millions. face it, we can't bring him down, no matter how much he deserves it.
but we can be honest with ourselves.
but we can be honest with ourselves.
I'll be honest! I will repeatedly watch Star Wars, Empire, Jedi, Raiders and Last Crusade. They are great films and deserve my patronage.
I can still also be honest and say that I have seen but will not repeat view Phantom Menace, Attack, or Temple.
I will be honest an praise Lucas and his creative teams for the films I have enjoyed. I will also honestly deride Lucas for the crap he has also laid on our tables.
I'm also happy that my repeat views have only cost me the price of a video or DVD each. I don't watch the films I don't like and I repeated watch the ones I do. For the hundreds, perhaps thousands of times I've watched these films I've only really paid a minimal amount in a dollar term. That potential amopunt of revenue has been markedly decreased with the production of the new films as I wont buy them & will certainly not repeatedly watch them.
Luminous beings are we... not this crude matter.
Yoda
Yoda
#52
Posted 07 May 2004 - 10:54 AM
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"All of these comments come from the same place: Boba Fett is in the movie, he was used poorly (unless you're a big fan of dumb comic relief), and I need to justify his beign there, or admit that it was stupid to include him"
Esxcept for the fact that his appearance provides continuity from ESB to ROTJ. Kind of like not having Yoda appear in ROTJ would be poor. Kind of like how not even mentioning Qui-Jon anywhere in Ep. II was poor.
#53
Posted 07 May 2004 - 11:00 AM
Having all your characters from one movie appear in the next movie is not essential to continuity.
When characters have fulfilled their role, they move on.
If we are to follow your line of thinking, then I'm going to have to say that it was terribly poor that they didn't include Lobot in Return of the Jedi.
Lobot was in The Empire Strikes Back. He should be there!!!!
Also, if you want to talk about characters being included for the sake of continuity, then can you answer this question -
Why the hell are there a completely different group of rebel leaders in this film? Where the hell was General Riekan from The Empire Strikes Back?
I could see the medical droid in the meeting. Why wasn't the rebel leader from the last film present?
If Boba Fett had to be in the film, then I would say that a shitload of other people had to be in it a lot more than he did.
When characters have fulfilled their role, they move on.
If we are to follow your line of thinking, then I'm going to have to say that it was terribly poor that they didn't include Lobot in Return of the Jedi.
Lobot was in The Empire Strikes Back. He should be there!!!!
Also, if you want to talk about characters being included for the sake of continuity, then can you answer this question -
Why the hell are there a completely different group of rebel leaders in this film? Where the hell was General Riekan from The Empire Strikes Back?
I could see the medical droid in the meeting. Why wasn't the rebel leader from the last film present?
If Boba Fett had to be in the film, then I would say that a shitload of other people had to be in it a lot more than he did.
#55
Posted 07 May 2004 - 11:03 AM
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Love the operatic music when Luke goes off on Vader.
This is one of those rare moments when I agree with you, Mike. In fact, the father/son stuff was the only good thing in Return of the Jedi apart from the special effects and the wonderful choreography of the space battle.
#56
Posted 07 May 2004 - 12:19 PM
yeah, that music was great. The emporer's "oh, you didn't know" or whatever lines had a nice melodious quality too.
the following fits the inconsistancy gripe:
Do they write in English?
Fine, Anikan built C-3PO. I haven’t read TPM novel, so I don’t have the insight to know if it was from a kit. But I read a SW Insider article that mentioned other -3PO droids, and they all apparently had an Alphabet Letter Prefix. So, are there only 26 of these robots in existence, or are there 26 varieties? That’s not very many unique names. (“what’s his name?” pause: “R2-D2.” “Oh yeah, we had an R2-D2 back on Alderaan. Does this one have jet-boots?”) I was just wondering- if an english alphabet letter is the prefix for the robot, (C-3PO, M-3PO, FU-3PO shouldn’t they (and yes, people are referred to as “Humans”) read and write in English also? (they certainly have an english dialect sometimes.)
Jedi-class: Do they earn merit-badges? Seems building a light-sabre is a requirement to be a jedi, kind of like boy scouts build pinewood derby racers. But Jedis sometimes fly spacecraft (named for their religion, yet.) And Luke’s father was a great pilot so is that another requirement? Levitation should be in there somewhere. And starting a fire with two sticks (and force lightning?)
The term Padawan is great from a Ben Kenobi perspective. If he is Obi-wan, shouldn’t Darth have been Annie-wan? Or should Obi-wan have been Bennyken’?
I suppose the inconsistancies are consistant.
the following fits the inconsistancy gripe:
Do they write in English?
Fine, Anikan built C-3PO. I haven’t read TPM novel, so I don’t have the insight to know if it was from a kit. But I read a SW Insider article that mentioned other -3PO droids, and they all apparently had an Alphabet Letter Prefix. So, are there only 26 of these robots in existence, or are there 26 varieties? That’s not very many unique names. (“what’s his name?” pause: “R2-D2.” “Oh yeah, we had an R2-D2 back on Alderaan. Does this one have jet-boots?”) I was just wondering- if an english alphabet letter is the prefix for the robot, (C-3PO, M-3PO, FU-3PO shouldn’t they (and yes, people are referred to as “Humans”) read and write in English also? (they certainly have an english dialect sometimes.)
Jedi-class: Do they earn merit-badges? Seems building a light-sabre is a requirement to be a jedi, kind of like boy scouts build pinewood derby racers. But Jedis sometimes fly spacecraft (named for their religion, yet.) And Luke’s father was a great pilot so is that another requirement? Levitation should be in there somewhere. And starting a fire with two sticks (and force lightning?)
The term Padawan is great from a Ben Kenobi perspective. If he is Obi-wan, shouldn’t Darth have been Annie-wan? Or should Obi-wan have been Bennyken’?
I suppose the inconsistancies are consistant.