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Posted 24 January 2008 - 07:13 PM

I read this old article once that explained a lot of things about generations and why they do what they do. It covered some interesting things about generational psychology and how trends repeat themselves. It also talked about Barney. I should look for it...
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 01:24 AM

QUOTE (Heccubus @ Jan 24 2008, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right, but the 80s also gave us Stryper, Poison, Motley Crue, Whitesnake.... Metallica's mainstream success didn't even come until 1991 when the Black Album came out. And Slayer, I would hardly call a mainstream success... The 80s also BRED the boy band infestation that took us nearly 20 years to rid ourselves of. And even now, the music world suffers as those stooges take to solo careers and continue to haunt the charts. Well, save of course for Justin Timberlake, who is both talented and DREAMY.


Who was talking about mainstream success...?

Metallica 80s = Awsome
metallica 90s = meh (sure black album was nice but, you know... first three were a trillogy of awsome)

the point is 80s metal generally kicks 90s metal's ass. yeah, there was crap there always has and will be and be having going to have been but my point is that you didn't have to dig so deep in the 80s to find good stuff. There was more of it around.

boy bands really were, by and large, and 90s thing. I don't care about 'molestor' or 'menuto' or whatever riki what's his face's first band was...

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I think the 80's were, by and large, a horrendous time for music. The wide stream use of the synthesizer turned music that may have been okay into garbage.


one word...

GARY NUMAN!

There... I think that's that argument won.

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and given the linier nature of time I consider it cronologically unfair to compare decades dragging technology into the fold. I mean in that case the 70s was the best because I could play with toys without getting weird looks.


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Crowded House reference!! Thanks Jordan!


But more importantly Split Enz.
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:44 AM

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It's pretty sweet to be able to have friends in South Carolina, Canada, Perth, Western Australia, Iceland, England, etc. when before I wouldn't have known any of you good people.

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I have to agree with Jordan. When I look at the 90's, I really just see a lead in to the 2000's. There's nothing overly different between the two decades, the 2000's simply take the 90's to the next level.
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:56 AM

Gary Numan is amazing! Not only is he a pop star, but he has a pilot's license!

Jordan: That distancing thing is true, definitely. I hear things all the time about bosses actually having the nerve to fire people via E-MAIL. How cowardly-pathetic is that? Grow some cojones and talk to people in person. I'm not even much of a people person, but I at least have enough respect and sense to understand what sort of situation calls for real interaction and what calls for what's essentially a paperless memo.

The 90s started what is apparently termed "Redneck Rock." I only learned over the past year or two that that's what it's called, but it's that generic shit where the male lead singer always has his tongue in the back of his throat so every word sounds like it has an r in it. See: Pearl Jam, Creed, Stone Temple Pilots, Nickelback, etc. It doesn't take much exaggeration of the vocal style to have every song sound like it's sung by a mentally retarded person with only half a tongue.

In technology, more plusses: Continued rise of CDs over cassettes, and DVD invention and wide-spread use. In culture, uh... Bill Bryson wrote some funny books during the period, I think. The trouble is I don't remember all that much from the 90s since I was 4-14 during the period, so I can't give that good an assessment.
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 11:33 AM

Dude, the 90's had that hairstyle where it looks like you have a giant building block on top of your head. And NEON clothes that had designs like paint splatters or patterns on top of patters. It was actually cool to mix patterns like, some neon green, pink, yellow, and blue plaid pants, with a neon green and pink striped shirt, and a neon yellow and blue polka dotted poofy hat. Guys were cool if they were wearing the right shade of pink with all their other blinding colours. And back then, it was okay for a little girl to run around in leggings/bike shorts and a tee-shirt without fear of getting molested. And there were those little pins that looked like sunglasses, and you wore a scrunchy both on your head, and on your shirt. "Talk to the hand!"

And there were actually gay people on tv all the time. That totally started in the 90s. So did reality television. And Nickelodeon and Sesame Street were actually good back then. And toys didn't quite do all the playing for you back then, you still had to use your imagination.

As far as music goes, I think mostly the 90's is characterized by the big dorky names like MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice. It was the 90's when "urban music" really started gaining in popularity big time.

But what I think characterizes the 90's really is the video games boom. Sure, some existed in the 80's but it was the 90's when everyone had a console of some type in their home, and it was the new cool thing for kids, and you were ostracized if you'd never beaten a couple levels of Mario or Sonic.

I also kinda see a split between the early 90's and late 90's. The fashion changed from that awful lots of neon mess to just wearing what everyone wore in the 60's and 70's, and the music focus changed from what I thought was more "fun" hiphop like Will Smith and started going more towards more serious rap, that really shitty "redneck rock" music that Slade was describing, poppy Latin grossness like Ricky Martin, billions of silly boy bands, and girly pop solos like Christina Aguilera or Britney Spears. All my favourite shows started getting canceled, even The Next Generation. sad.gif And the internet, while it had existed, became waaaay more popular in the latter half of the 90's than the earlier half, and I finally actually had people to email with other than my parents. tongue.gif

But all of my characterization of the 90's I know is all based on my own experience. I can see how it could sometimes seem like a segue into the 2000's but I definitely can make the distinction. I think the 90's is when technology really took off, really - video games, cell phones, internet, etc., so while the other generations have labels to me like "Depression Decade," "June Cleaver Decade," "Hippie Decade," and so on, I'd probably name the 90's something having to do with technology... And neon.

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Posted 25 January 2008 - 12:13 PM

Oh yeah, duh. Cartoons were fifty million times better in the 90s! Today's cartoons are such utter banal CRAP it's offensive to my intelligence. I don't remember any neon, but I do remember that everyone who actually knew who Mario and Sonic were were the ones who were ostracised when I went to school. Nobody cool had ever played a serious videogame. In fact, being intelligent and not hiding it, and being poor at athletics were the other big taboos of public school.
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 12:38 PM

Really?? Maybe where you went to school had something to do with it. All the cool people at all 3 of my elementary schools and my middle school played video games (though not nearly to the extent of your typical "gaming" kid of this decade), except girls not as much (though the girls that did were really cool to the guys). It became less cool in middle school but it was never uncool; just, you wouldn't go "OH WOW, you have an N64? That's so AWESOME you're my new best friend." (Because by then, everyone had one.) You had to be pretty obsessed with video games for it to be a reason you got made fun of at all of my schools.

As far as the neon goes, think Fresh Prince, the kids on the Cosby Show, Lavar in Reading Rainbow, the kids in Sesame Street, the kids on Full House for the first half of it...

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Here's the scary part: Some of this stuff is coming back, right along with the leg-warmers, punkness, and/or preppiness (think today's fratboys and sororiwhores) of the 80's.

(I gotta admit, though; I love fun coloured/designed leggings. Though not by themselves. Throw a skirt or some shorts on over those, please, ladies.)
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 05:28 PM

QUOTE (Slade @ Jan 25 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah, duh. Cartoons were fifty million times better in the 90s!



Oh, hey, I found the article. It's from the 90's, but it explains some things.
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:22 PM

Ok, things that are 90s and are different from now.

Neon, as spoon mentioned
Pastel colours
Ugly sweaters
Mushroom cuts and undercuts
fanny pack
Fido Dido
7up commericals with the dot
And much more...

NOW

1995 onward, nothing is that much different in fashion, music, or film. The style is not so changed in times that you'd say OMG thats so 10 years old.

1990-1993 still had remenants of the 80s and had all that stuff up above I mentioned. 1994 started seeing a big change, and 1995 was nothing like 1993 and back.

Communication is easier now and technology is always getting better, but aside from that, no band, film, or runway show looks outdated from 1997 when compared to 2007.


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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:26 PM

It's actually the 7up "Spot." tongue.gif And I miss the California Raisins!

Spoon: Ugh. I'm GLAD I don't remember any of that tacky nonsense!
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 06:29 PM

MAN! I miss that 7-Up spot! That was one of the coolest video games. It had pretty great graphics for just being a Sega Genesis! (Is 7-Up even around anymore? I don't think I've seen it in forever... Just Sprite, Mountain Dew, and Sierra Mist...)
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Posted 25 January 2008 - 09:15 PM

We have it here, anyplace that sells Pepsi has 7-up. It's their generic lemonade. Though personally, Schweppes Lemonade is the only lemonade worth drinking.
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Posted 26 January 2008 - 04:36 AM

The 1990s brought up Seinfeld and many other shows with equally bad quality.
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Posted 26 January 2008 - 05:01 AM

7-Up = lemonade? Uh...check your definition of lemonade. I think for something to be considered lemonade it has to actually contain SOME traces of lemons.

The 7-Up spot was called Cool Spot. He was a spot, who was cool (as noted by his cool black shades and high-top sneakers).

What's so wrong with Seinfeld? It was insanely well written for the first five or six seasons, and was one of few long-running sitcoms that was consistently good throughout its run.
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Posted 26 January 2008 - 08:10 AM

It got old fast. There can only be so many times that I laugh at someone for being sarcastic. Its not really the show that was lacking in quality but its main protagonist, Seinfeld. Kramer, George and Newman stood well against the test of time.
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