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Posted 06 February 2008 - 09:30 AM

All I'm hoping for are sleazy, slimy candidates. They're 'more' honest that way. WYSIWYG

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 11:03 PM

be ever thankful for the invention of the electoral college as it is the final deciding faction that ultimately determines who shall be the victor

its indeed a true lifesaver

it prevents american voters from placing wrongful candidates in the position of commander in chief

because as presidential history has shown us, its much better to live than to be active in the oval office and be loathed by many

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 11:13 PM

Clinton got Mass, too, I'm afraid. So I know your pain.
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Posted 06 February 2008 - 11:16 PM

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 06:51 AM

Watch out, everyone! We have a fresh and edgy political pundit amongst us!
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 07:45 AM

He looks so cheerful that he's about to eviscerate you. That's how you can tell he's such a fun guy.
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Posted 07 February 2008 - 06:50 PM

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! *dances*
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/romney

Romney's out! Such a relief.

Here's a funny tidbit from the article: "If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 08:45 PM

It seems they're dropping like flies. Looks like McCain's closing in on the nomination.
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 08:45 PM

Just voted for Obama and it seems I'm on the winning side, he took VA AND DC, and almost certainly Maryland as well.

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 01:01 PM

Awesome. I just learned a few minutes ago that when Democratic candidates don't gain enough "delegates", (a 51%majority of them) then the party itself gets to decide who wins the primary elections. They're designed specifically to tip the scales one way or the other.

http://www.cnn.com/2...ref=mpstoryview

Not only is it an electoral college just to nominate the blues properly, if that fails, their electoral college has its own electoral college. Did I mention that the superdelegates have no obligation to how voters of their state voted, and this has already cost candidates elections in the past? Where the fuck is the popular vote? The more I learn about this country's idiot political system, the more disgusted and fed up I get.
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Posted 14 February 2008 - 02:15 PM

Dude, you didn't know that? Yeah. Stupid stuff. My dad was a delegate once. First they were assigned to vote for someone, then when that guy dropped out of the race, they got to vote for whoever they wanted... Or something. huh.gif

The democrats have that percentage thing, and if it's not a good enough majority, it's fucked up. But the republicans have a winner take all thing. Which is good in some ways - there's no question of majority and so whoever wins, wins - but also, it can screw over candidates in other ways; such as if McCain barely wins a state with a large number of delegates, he gets all the delegates and Huckabee gets none, whereas under the democratic system, Huckabee would have a better chance because he'd get some of those candidates.

Talk about a run-on sentence... Sorry.
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Posted 14 February 2008 - 04:45 PM

I read something that explains the superdelegate issue. Apparently it's to thwart outside influence from determining the Democractic nominee. Independents and such can't hurt the outcome of the vote since democratic super delegates, being the keepers of the faith, have a heavy say on who is voted in.

If it was a total vote system, you could get closet republicans and independents vote for the weaker canditate, basically some one who has a greater chance of losing the presidential election for the democrats.


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Posted 14 February 2008 - 04:57 PM

Or we could do the sane and fair thing and drop this delegate bullshit and go for the popular vote.

Haha. I just can't keep a straight face when I say that. I might as well wait for pigs to sprout wings.
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Posted 14 February 2008 - 05:03 PM

The reason we don't do a directly democratic vote (aka popular vote) is something about making sure the stupid and/or uneducated don't control the fate of the country. Which I kinda understand some days when having to deal with the average American. Ugh.

Honestly, though: think about how easily so many people are swayed by the media, or somesuch. Many people just follow along with whatever, picking opinions based on friends or what people tell them is right or their church or whatever. So giving the presidency to the popular vote might just really be more of the same - the politicians tell you what you want to hear, they pay the media to tell you who's the better candidate, maybe pay off the pope or something, I dunno. tongue.gif

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 05:16 PM

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So giving the presidency to the popular vote might just really be more of the same


Exactly. I'm not sure Liberal Americans would want this either atm. Since conservitives still have huge numbers, popular vote might not be such a good thing.

As I said in my thread that every one ignored, save JM, it doesn't matter who you vote in to power. Republican or Democrat are still bound to the glue that holds this country together, the corprautocracy. We all know it's true.

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