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Posted 19 December 2007 - 01:35 PM

A lot of things suck ass today, and maybe im leaning towards being nostalgic, but I dont give a f***.

I wont lie though DVD technology is pretty damn awesome, I had to wait about 25 yrs though before I was finally able to watch a movie at home and not have to worry about rewinding it..but scratch a DVD and your house party will pretty much bail out on you . good thing i do still have some VHS backups just in case, right?

Music today just seems to suck ass. Sure theres a handful of bands out there that I may randomly choose to label as having some talent to a certain degree, but on the whole they seem to lack overall talent. I grew up in the in 1980's when most bands played their own damn instruments without any need of digital editing whatsoever. Heck, digital technology was barely beginning to surface in that time, which a lot of music aficiandos such as myself will note a varying audio difference between a track that has been digitally remastered and that which still retains the essence of being the actual master on the analog tape.

I have been crying a slow solemn tear ever since a lot of really good music began to fall right off the radio in favor of teeny-bopper boybands and R&B which have seemed to dominate the charts ever since music pirating has been a hot online commodity. In the days of free Napster, no one continued buying music anymore,.well no one with a computer and the ability to download free music, which means the music industry began to primarily dominated by prepubescent girls who seemed to be the only ones walked out of a record store and bought the newest Nsync or Backside Boys album with their monthly allowance. Whatever this specific demographic bought is what began to dominate the music charts and paved the shitty road ahead for other miserable acts like Justin Timberlake, Pink, Nelly, Mario, Bow Wow, and everyone else who thinks they have talent and are putting out album after album only because the only people left buying music from the music shops anymore are those people who wont be legally able to drive themselves to the nearest mall for another 4 to 5 yrs.

and whats with the "feature" thing now, it seems every other act today now has to "feature" another act. if they are calling themselves musicians, or artists,.dont they possess enough talent to go it out alone on their own damn song??...Nelly f/ Pink,..Timbaland f/ Nas...Wu-Tang Clan f/ Pussycat Dolls. Thats crazy! Prince never needed to feature Michael Jackson, and Kiss never needed to feature Tesla,.so why the hell is every other artist featuring someone? and why does this seem to be largely relegated towards the R&B and/or pop genre? sure is sending a strong message.

Right around 1999,.or maybe it was 2001 ( I cant remember exactly) the whole music industry took a head first dive into a sewer plant. Music began to suck. Rock just seemed to turn pussified in favor of punk rock. Even Gwen Stefani sold out and shedded her rock roots in favor of the R&B/pop that every other 13 yr old girl was buying in every corner record store.

Why are there more artists than ever now? it seems like every other damn week theres a brand new fresh artist in either the Pop genre or R&B genre coming out. Theres more shitty records to choose from than ever before now. Where's the quality control department in the recording industry?? Cause im not buying this bullshit that just anyone out there has talent and can make an album.

Why are more and more white guys acting like they are black? This isnt a racist view, so please dont try to twist this into one. Black folks are just as cool as white folks are. But for the love of Christ,.act normal. Justin Timberlake is the sorriest mainstream sellout excuse I have ever encountered. His voice sounds like a chipmunk, and I havent decided if its Alvin, Simon, or Theodore.

and this isnt just a rant thats targeted at any specific genre,.but really, all of them. Everything has taken a head-on crash into a mountain of crap. Country has gone Rock-pop. Pop has gone R&B-ish. Hip-Hop has became so fast that most of the lyrics sound like they are being voiced by an intoxicated incoherent Jamaican.

Dont even get me started on these silly bullshit shows like American Idol, America's got talent, and the like. Since when can anyone just sing a handful of songs to a studio audience that can be impressed with glazed dog manure as well, AND get a full-fledged recording deal as well??..WTF!?..whatever happened to bands having to play in countless bars and dives for many years before being even noticed by key individuals in the recording industry. thats a crock of shit is what that is.

a famous quote from the 1989 film "Black Rain"..."Movies and music is all America is good for!"
Well apparently that Japanese guy that said that was sorely mistaken, because America isnt even good for THAT anymore! Ive ranted enough about how music today sucks, so lets move onto movies.

I grew up in a time when most very other cartoon was HAND-DRAWN. Ouch! sore thumbs. Its required a lot of painstaking time to bring an animated classic to the big screen, but when it happened it looked awesome, and the vocal dialogue wasnt as cheesy as it is now. Theres almost no more animated films anymore. Only the diligent, hard working Japanese still make those, because Americans have no talent, and would much rather sit down in front of a computer with a graphics app and point and click and drag a mouse around all day to make a film.

Even George Lucas isnt walking around on the set, frantically worried about how rubber puppets wont work too well on the film like he did with all of the older Star Wars films. No. With this new pile of crap films, he just sat his grey fat ass in a comfy leather chair behind head nerd Rob Coleman and told him what to do and how long to do it for, while they both got drunken with inflatuence eating Flaming Hot Cheetos.

Then theres these famous people that tend to wear more occupational hats than the hardest working Jamaican. They are actor/film director/musician/comic/talk show/game show host. I cant seem to think of anyone right off the bat, but Queen Latifah, Will Smith, Whoopi Goldberg, Eddie Murphy, Jennifer Lopez, and a few others seem to come to mind.

lets move onto clothes. it seems every other kid is either trying to wear all black and don themselves black makeup, green hair, and doggy chains around their necks. what the fuck is this shit. if you went to my grade school looking like that back in the day, they would have kicked your ass and used the doggy chains to chain your count dickula-ass up to a see-saw on the playground. Only the black kids could get away with dressing crazy, and thats only back when Michael Jackson was black and he made parachute pants and weaing glittery gloves cool.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 02:42 PM

Not again...




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Posted 19 December 2007 - 03:08 PM

I find it laughable that people come on this forum expressing their misadventures and hope that someone gives a damn. I also find it laughable the kind of things people complain about. Here is an idea, realise that your personal problems don’t matter.
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Posted 19 December 2007 - 07:28 PM

Dear sweet Flaming popsicles, what the hell? This forum is not your personal soap box. The next time I see you rambling on and on for that long, I'm going to close the topic. Get a blog.

In regards to the parts of this topic I managed to read before passing out: music started sucking far before 2000. Try... hmm. It's a toughy. There's always been junk in with the good stuff. I'd say somewhere in the early 90s the mainstream stuff started consistently bombing. Idiot redneck rock bands started flooding at least the radio waves, because some moron decided it was a good thing to imitate Kurt Kobain. (The best thing he ever did for music was die, because it meant not having to put up with more Nirvana, and it let Dave Grohl shine. While I don't like a whole lot of Grohl's music, he just seems like a super awesome dude.) Record companies all over the place decided that money was even more important and quality of music even less important than they had in the past, so music was dumbed down and "alternative" completely lost its meaning. After all talent was destroyed, the labels moved on to the heaver stuff and began churning out shit like Korn and Slipknot for all the kids who weren't into pop stars or the watered down garbage that grunge and general ole' rock had become to make sure they caught that demographic. And I've gone on for far too long and to even covered half of it or other genres, and I'm probably repeating a whole lot of stuff I've said a few times before. Barend or Heccubus could take over if they manage to read that far into your blagopost before giving up.

But yeah, bottom line: file sharing didn't kill music. The big corporations have been trying to manufacture and control the supply and demand for their Culture Industry for a long time. And post less, geeze.
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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:15 PM

Okay, that was one hell of a post. I don't even write that much in one sitting; and I'm a fricking author.

For the most part I say this: that's life for you pal, and if you don't like what's on the tv/radio/prostitute down the road then turn the damn thing off instead of sitting there yelling Why God Why every time something that offends your delicate sensibilites comes on.

You complain about rock being dead. Bullshit. Let me see here..... Blind Guardian, AFI, The Killers, Dragonforce and The Sword to name a few of the fairly recent ones. All you have to do is look and there is good music. And if you can't find it, quit whining and keep looking.

Digital distribution and piracy didn't kill good music; idiotic gangsta wannabes with the IQ of Ozzy Osbourne's sperm trying to dress like 50 Cent did. The reason being is that we're stopping the dumb fucks in the world from killing themselves and now they're reproducing is to blame, but my genocidal outlook on my fellow man is a story best saved for another occasion. Point here being that it is never the medium to blame but the people who influence and are influenced by it.

Jack Thompson, I'm looking at you.

You think that digitally editing music sucks and musicians should all play their own instruments. Once again I say, fuck that. Last time I checked Beethoven couldn't play every damn instrument in an entire symphony. Daft Punk aren't aliens with multiple arms nailing their guitars up and down. Tyler Heath is not The Flash in disguise, running up and down through the orchestra playing every instrument in turn and then running for the computer to make the techno. Just because the musician in question isn't going blue in the face puffing into the wrong end of the saxophone doesn't make their music of any less quality. Nobuo Uematsu and Koji Kondo are capable of playing only a couple of instruments each; and they have written some of the most beautiful music I've ever heard. Have you listened to the soundtrack for Advent Children? Damn, it's like a magic spell for a boner. I'm pretty sure that if all they had access to was a couple of trombonists and a timpanist named Sven because they just HAD to play their own instruments, none of that would exist and we'd be missing out on some awe-inspiring stuff because of it.

You're whining at American cartoons because they're not hand-drawn any more. That is so god damned retarded I want to hurt you in the face. Since when did any particular ART FORM have to be hand-drawn? Art changes with the times and no matter its purpose or intent it keeps up with us. You think Michelangelo was sitting there wanking himself stupid in his depression that all the artists of his time were doing paintings instead of sculptures? You think maybe Da Vinci got criticized because the Mona Lisa wasn't following the trends? What is with you idiots that think that stuff that is computer-enhanced or generated is automatically inferior to hand-drawn stuff? What are you, fucking Amish? Go watch that new Beowulf movie. It's not any good, but the entire thing is done in CGI and for the record it looks goddamn amazing. Then again it also has tits and Angelina Jolie's arse and I personally don't want to read about you being so turned on by the sight of an actual female's naughty bits that you drop your dacks and spank yourself silly in the middle of the cinema right there with the rest of the nerdy populace in some sort of pathetic circle-jerk.

And finally, clothing. News flash, Captain Genius. The clothing style you just described is Rivet Goth and has been around for oh.... twenty or thirty years? It was all the way through the seventies and made a big show in the nineties. Only recently has it really come up to the surface and I must sadly admit that it's mainly due to the posers with little dicks and no income trying to make themselves feel good about themselves. This is also the case for the death freaks who walk around saying they are Lord Count Baron von Fuckface and are over two hundred years old. This goes for ravers, J-Poppers and pretty much every other kind of subculture one can belong to. Bottom line here is if you don't like the clothing style, stop looking and for god's sake stop jerking off to it on 4chan when your parents are in bed.

And in case you haven't been able to spot the pattern throughout this post, here it is: Welcome to the real world. This is how it is and no amount of your pansy-ass whining is going to make it go poof and transform into the magical kingdom of puppies and fucking rainbows. This is modern life good sir, and if you don't like it then I heartily recommend you leap off a building because there are always going to be things you don't like in it and no amount of pointless bitching you do is going to change that.

Now then. David-Kyo, if you could kindly link me to that picture?
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 12:26 AM

I like pie.
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 02:56 AM

Oh yeah, in the 80s people played their own instruments and didn't make use of any digital augmentation to make it sound better.
Do you now know what a fucking synthesizer is? Have you never heard of Korg or Casio? The 80s music scene catches flack all the time because people became reliant on easy-to-program keyboard synths the make music, rather than actually learning how to play a keyboard, or use a modular synthesizer. And oh, oh, those guys in Poison, Whitesnake, Ratt and Hanoi Rocks...yeah those guys are fucking prodigies. That's why they're still so relevant today.

Now let's go through the rest of this nonsense:
  • People who bitch about how there's 'no good music today' aren't looking hard enough.
  • Radio has sucked for three solid decades, and it's never getting better. Stop listening to AM/FM radio and find a good podcast or online station, and then stop bitching about fucking radio. Radio is dead.
  • You have no idea how the music industry works, and it shows in your pathetic little whine-fest related to Napster. Those kinds of bands have been dominating the charts since the 60s! James Taylor, Peter Frampton, ABBA, John Fogerty, The Eagles...These bands / artists are fucking horrible too. People just don't think they can say that people from those eras sucked because they have some stupid little nostalgia trip every time someone mentions ABBA. ABBA sucked just as badly, if not worse, than anyone on the charts today. People refer to Nirvana as a huge chart-topping sensation, and yeah they were, but they were up against shit like Bel Biv Devoe and Amy Grant. Napster had NO effect on the music industry. It wasn't as huge as people think it was, and it wasn't until the past few years where file sharing started to take any sort of genuinely notable toll on record sales. Major labels are interested mostly in artists that will sell. If someone might not sell, they MAKE IT SELL. THOSE are the labels affiliated with the RIAA, and therefor, THOSE are the artists that show up on Billboard and get certified Gold or Platinum. Artists on smaller labels who aren't affiliated with the RIAA aren't eligible for these "benefits".
  • I don't care what you say. As soon as you say "so and so is acting 'black'" you're making a racist comment. There isn't really any way to "act black". It's hip hop culture, and in case you haven't noticed IT'S OKAY FOR WHITE PEOPLE TO LIKE HIP HOP AND TAKE PART IN THE CULTURE. THEY STARTED LETTING US DO THAT.
  • Why the fuck NOT feature other artists on your tracks? It establishes connections, keeps other artists in the spotlight, promotes their work, and builds working relationships (see: Timbaland and Missy Elliot's long-running collaborative work). Not to mention the fact that a huge artist featuring a smaller, lesser-known artist on their album can help get the latter's name in the public eye and launch a successful career (see: Kanye West).

I can't even be bothered to keep going. You've done nothing but exercise a complete lack of knowledge in the subject matter you're bitching about.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 03:58 AM

Heccubus is right, radio is dead.

Video killed the radio star.

Which is good, because I don't think radio porn would have caught on.
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 02:44 PM

Radio is fine. I get plenty of classic rock to keep me happy, and there's several good internet stations for Jpop.

Make with the technology, and (legally) stream your troubles away!
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 02:54 PM

The most annoying thing about radio are the canned Family Guy sound bites they cram into songs. God why do you insist on ruining everything with these? I'm asking you, God!
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 06:46 PM

You must be talking about the WACKY MORNING DJ SHOW ON WATE RADIO WITH BEEZER AND "THE GOATBOY!" (Insert farting noises, pornography sound bites, and laugh tracks ad nauseum.)

To be fair, Poison is pretty funny. They recently released a cover album in a desperate attempt to scream "We're still relevant!" to the music world. A big part of the reason radio sucks is that the big media conglomerates own it all, and will only play sanctioned music play lists (I don't know who calls those shots, but I'm willing to bet it's everyone's favorite Recording Industry Association of America, and they need as many people to listen to them as possible so that the advertising companies will feel comfortable allowing their endless waves of commercials between every song on each station.

Re: people with multiple talents: Those of us creative people sometimes like to have more than one outlet to express ourselves in. I tend to put off writing, drawing, throwing ceramic pieces, and playing the piano. (Put off because I haven't been properly creative in a while. tongue.gif ) I'd slap you if you told me I had to stick to one medium. As long as the famous people who get involved in more than one famous-people profession (for lack of a better term) don't suck at said professions, who cares? Though to be fair, nobody should ever be a talk show host. Martin Short (NOT as Glick) and Wayne Brady did a mediocre to OK job, but talk shows are still just obnoxious. tongue.gif

Clothes: People can express themselves however the heck they want. It's just funny in situations when they feel like they're individuals even though their group dresses exactly alike.

Michael Jackson: He was awesome when he was black. Thriller is just fantastic. Yes, I am basing young, black Michael Jackson entirely off of Thriller. And I'm a 100% heterosexual male, but he was attractive enough that even I can tell. Now he is a monster. sad.gif
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 08:14 PM

Okay, reading the first post, does anyone else get a mental image of a crotchety old man sitting on his front porch in a rocking chair yelling at his grandchildren about how "his day" was so much better?

And Slade, RE: Poison:
See that's the point. The only reason anyone recognizes any of those names nowadays is because people think hair metal was funny. I'm a confessed Motley Crue fan, but even though I genuinely like the Crue, I still acknowledge that four men in tight leather pants and makeup look like a bunch of retards, and that's funny. Being a complete joke =/= relevance.

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Posted 22 December 2007 - 01:10 PM

if anything, file sharing will improve the music situation - it gives lesser-known artists a way to get their work heard without the support of a record company or mainstream radio.
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Posted 23 December 2007 - 05:20 AM

QUOTE (Emu @ Dec 22 2007, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if anything, file sharing will improve the music situation - it gives lesser-known artists a way to get their work heard without the support of a record company or mainstream radio.

You honestly couldn't be more wrong. It'd be great to live in a dream world where illegal file sharing is assisting the little guy, but it's not. Stealing music hurts independent artists more than anyone. They don't get paid as much for live shows, for instance, so they rely on those CD sales to make ends meet a lot of the time. It's no more or less fair to them than it would be to someone on a major label with a multi-million dollar contract.
With the advent of bit torrent and an ever-growing number of P2P clients, CD sales have faced a steady downward decline since about 2004. Like, a drastic decrease. A frightening decrease.
That said, however, I have no sympathy for the record industry (Anyone who gets that joke gets 10 bonus points). They've proven time and time again that they're reliant on outdated business practices that simply don't apply to today's music scene. If they want to keep up and keep afloat, they need to start offering music at a next-to-nothing price. It's as simple as that. I'd still be buying CDs if they weren't $20 or more. But this whole debacle is being talked about in the music forum as well, so I think I'll stop before I start ranting. biggrin.gif

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 07:48 AM

I don’t like it when ‘independent’ artists attach their work to a well known name who they have never met or hope to meet.
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