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General Grievous A New Star Wars Character in Episode III

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Posted 24 April 2004 - 11:13 AM

Well, there's been a lot of talk on other forums about this guy. People are a bit scared he'll steal Vaders thunder. Also, some think he's too "anime", a bit too advanced for a Star Wars droid character. I'm not really sure what to think of this one yet, but considering the odds...

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I see it can use a lightsaber. roger, roger.


Make that 4 lightsabers, simultaneously. (rumour)
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Posted 24 April 2004 - 11:25 AM

That's no rumor HK. Watched the Clone Wars episode he was in, he in fact can use four lightsabers simultaneously. On a cartoon it doesn't look too bad, but I can't imagine how it could look believeable in the movie.
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Posted 24 April 2004 - 08:07 PM

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I am very glad I've never seen Howard the Duck, from everything I've heard about it.


I actually have seen Howard the Duck twice and lived to tell about it. It is not the most painful movie experience I have every seen to tell the truth. The problems with Howard the Duck had more to do with so many of it's jokes and comedic moments being delivered so ineptly. Also it was pretty difficult to recreate a lot of the humor and themes of the 1970s comic book into a 1980s live action movie. If you ever get the chance try and get some of those old Howard the Duck comics. They really are funny!!!! biggrin.gif

The only thing really worth watching Howard the Duck for is Lea Thompson!!!!! tongue.gif
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Posted 25 April 2004 - 12:02 AM

QUOTE (Mike Mac from NYU @ Apr 24 2004, 08:07 PM)
If you ever get the chance try and get some of those old Howard the Duck comics. They really are funny!!!! biggrin.gif

The only thing really worth watching Howard the Duck for is Lea Thompson!!!!! tongue.gif

I've read some anthologies. can't remember the details but that I liked it.

Never saw the film but for the actress, that was before BTTF by a year, I guess.
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Posted 25 April 2004 - 01:59 AM

Cool... Thanks, Mike. I'll keep an eye out for any of those old comics. Although it sounds like it's probably best to steer clear of the movie.

Although I do like Lea Thompson... unsure.gif
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Posted 25 April 2004 - 06:51 PM

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The only thing really worth watching Howard the Duck for is Lea Thompson!!!!!


Jeffrey Jones {Ferris Bueller's Mr. Rooney} is also pretty good in it too. He is truly an underappreciated actor. In some points he is actually delivers some funny moments in the film.
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Posted 26 April 2004 - 03:41 AM

"She took my eggs."
"I had a lot of different ideas. At one point, Luke, Leia and Ben were all going to be little people, and we did screen tests to see if we could do that." -George Lucas, in STAR WARS: the Annotated Screenplays (p197).
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Posted 26 April 2004 - 06:49 PM

Howard's voice always bothered me. I always imagined him more gruff, and almost Wolverinesque voice? Am I wrong in thinking that? Just seemed like he took s&*& from nobody.

Oh well, I love the design of the invading aliens thought. Such wonderful Tippet delivery. smile.gif
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 03:17 AM

Howard the Duck was a cigar-chompin tough-talkin ladies' man (duck) who was slappin asses and scorin chicks (pun intended) during the loose days of the me generation. The whole point of that comic was to draw women in hot pants with their nipples poking through their shirts and put the duck in situations where he could insult tough guys and leer at babes. He was a cross-species Mike Hammer, struttin through adventures like a lead-fisted fascist and earning the pussy as reward.

The movie failed to get that across by making Howard a wimpy little milquetoast who needed a female ally (not a henchwoman, or secretary, but ally, and oddly, almost a love interest, but not quite) to help him fight the dark overlord. Boo. This was even before the days of PC. You can feel the effort to be true to the source, in the all-girl band Cherry Bomb and the all-girl biker gang Satan's Sluts, but all of this is watered down to the point of unrecognizability. Lucas (as exec producer) turned this oddity of the last days of open-faced misogyny into a B-grade kids' film, presumably to avoid rufflin feathers. Pun intended. The result loses the weird humour of the source and creates about the dumbest comic book movie ever attempted before TANK GIRL (also sucks).
"I had a lot of different ideas. At one point, Luke, Leia and Ben were all going to be little people, and we did screen tests to see if we could do that." -George Lucas, in STAR WARS: the Annotated Screenplays (p197).
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 02:07 PM

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That's no rumor HK. Watched the Clone Wars episode he was in, he in fact can use four lightsabers simultaneously. On a cartoon it doesn't look too bad, but I can't imagine how it could look believeable in the movie.


Really?! I saw it too recently and the General picks up a lightsaber with his toes! and fights with it. Hmm, wonder if that really will be in the movie? Also, the propeller-spinning-fight-technique looked a bit too cartoony to be succesfully translated to Ep III. I thought the rumour meant that he would have four arms. But hey, it's George. tongue.gif
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 02:19 PM

He'll hold four lightsabers in his hands. His forearms split down the middle. Check out the cover of whatever magazine it was that showed his pic, you can see how his hands are doubled.
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Posted 27 April 2004 - 04:03 PM

Can't really go by too much of what happened in the Clone Wars cartoons. Considering Mace Windu in the cartoons was a combination of Superman and Neo when he took out an entire army by himself, yet on-screen in Ep2 he fought more like a 43-year old accountant with gout. I would not expect Grievous to be as ass-kicking as he was in teh toon.
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 03:29 AM

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Also, the propeller-spinning-fight-technique looked a bit too cartoony to be succesfully translated to Ep III.


Nothing is too cartoony for George! smile.gif
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 03:31 AM

QUOTE (civilian_number_two @ Apr 27 2004, 03:17 AM)
The movie failed to get that across by making Howard a wimpy little milquetoast who needed a female ally (not a henchwoman, or secretary, but ally, and oddly, almost a love interest, but not quite) to help him fight the dark overlord. Boo. This was even before the days of PC. You can feel the effort to be true to the source, in the all-girl band Cherry Bomb and the all-girl biker gang Satan's Sluts, but all of this is watered down to the point of unrecognizability. Lucas (as exec producer) turned this oddity of the last days of open-faced misogyny into a B-grade kids' film, presumably to avoid rufflin feathers. Pun intended. The result loses the weird humour of the source and creates about the dumbest comic book movie ever attempted before TANK GIRL (also sucks).

This is what I was talking about in one of the other threads. Go to far away from the source and you make a crap film. Stick to close and you get accused of not being original.

Again, I'd personally go with being called unoriginal but still producing a top notch film that is true to the characters and feel represented in the source material.
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 03:43 AM

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Again, I'd personally go with being called unoriginal but still producing a top notch film that is true to the characters and feel represented in the source material.


I agree wholeheartedly with that notion. If only George Lucas thought like that. I wouldn't have minded if he re-hashed similar stories to the original trilogy if it resulted in something that we could still enjoy.

It doesn't seem like he's even watched the original trilogy for quite a while.
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